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B103
March 10th, 2009, 03:49
I found several sites that recommend 8-10 hours a day using moderate tension where the users said that they got the fastest results during the use of moderate tension for 24/7. If anyone is interested I can provide some sites for more info. (so use 8-10/day or 24/7??) this is confusing!

A method that I am finding to becoming popular is the use of high tension for short period of time then low tension for long period. For ex. the tug ahoy in the section of how to tug you can find that the use of 3-5 pounds(not exactly sure) for ten minutes then lower the tension for the rest of the day can be productive. In apollo technologies, the use of high tension tugging for short period is recomended then use very low tension (use of a single O ring) for the rest of the day.
Can any who tried the 24/7 or the second method give us some info about if he made constant or fast results.

Since I do not have any problems or discomfort using the TLC TUGGER at hight tension, I am thinking of trying to use high tension(4-5 pounds) for 10 min. more or less. then resume at one pound tension for the rest of the day(8-10 hrs), and record how my result is affected. I thought of giving that method a try because the time where I combined mannual (stretching with high tension)along with the TLC I got better results, but I stopped using manual coz of time.

Appreciated if Ron or any of our friends (tuggers) gives some recommendation about if they encourage to try this method or not.
Thanks in advance.

hopeforemore237
March 10th, 2009, 09:38
Lately I have tried the moderate to high tension for a shorter period of time and have noticed some changes. I seemed to be at a plateau (or had just lost some steam in being consistent in my tugging) so after reading some different things on here I tried this.

I will put the TLC-x on with a pretty tight rubberband and let that begin to stretch the skin out a little bit. After a half hour (sometimes more sometimes less) I will add a leg strap with pretty high tension. I will then vary the tension from high to moderate and vice versa depending on if it starts to get uncomfortable. I may wear the TLC-x from 4-7 hours in a day. When I am not wearing the TLC-x I wear the Packer16 during the day and the your-skin cone at night. I am not sure of any specifics on the lbs. of tension, but I'm sure the "high" is over a pound.

As I stated earlier, I have noticed a difference in the form of what appears to be some growth. I will also add the squeeze stretch technique for a few minutes here and there.

admin
March 10th, 2009, 12:51
I would just say that I know gentle 24/7 (or as close as you can get) tension will grow healthy new slack that feels great.

Intense short-interval tension may put stresses on the harder-to-grow nerve or muscle structures with unknown effects.

-Ron

(CG)
March 10th, 2009, 14:31
Ah, the debate continues to rage. On balance, I think Ron is right. You don't want to overdo things as it may cause damage — skin tears, abrasions, etc. If you want to mix it up a bit, do some manual stretching first thing in the morning as you shower. Loosen things up a bit, and apply your device for the day with gentle and moderate tension. Adjust tension throughout the day if you have to. When you strip off for the day, finish with some manual stretching as well. The manual stretching will give you opportunity to increase the tension, but do so without hurting yourself. And, you can also undulate that tension — stretch tight and relax — a number of times. This seems to be a practice followed by quite a few on the forum. Tally, where are you on this one? :rolleyes:

Regards,
(CG)

hopeforemore237
March 10th, 2009, 16:00
In response to what Ron said, do think it is bad for nerve and muscle growth to use 2-3 lbs of tension for short intervals and use 1 lb tension for the majority of tugging time?

B103
March 11th, 2009, 03:16
Did Ron or anyone use 24/7 or as much as possible and got the good results?

I read several articles about skin stretching where some tribes apply gentle tension to their ears or lips by weights or disks . Their skin does expand and grow where the tension is applied 24/7. Still confused abouth the high tension short period of time.
For me I know that skin expansion is possible and I can restore my foreskin, I am using the best method (from my experience with other methods) to restore which is the TLC tugger. The final part is time and tension, I wish we can have a one best regime that works for everyone although results might vary from one to another.

So confusing dont know what to do? (still at 8-10 hrs/day) anyone recommending moderate tension for 24/7 or as close as possible, I am looking for a change in method coz the result is currently very low.

4Foreskin
March 11th, 2009, 05:37
B103,

I use as close as possible to 24/7 and low tension. With job and other life commitments this is not always possible.

I was cut pretty tight when I started and estimated CI1.5 (with erection I could just barely pull 1/8 to ¼ of an inch onto the corona). After 16 months I am now CI3.5 (I can pull skin all the way to the end of the glans).

I hope this helps.

hopeforemore237
March 11th, 2009, 08:56
In addition to my previous post, here is an article I read about manual tugging. I am going to try to post the link, but if it doesn't work you can go to the Foreskin Restoration Chat website and look up Manual Tugging and find the article. Here's the link:

http://foreskinrestorationchat.info/manualtugging.html

I have heard people debate some of these concepts, such as, cyclical and 24/7, etc. Basically, I have tried to apply this concept to tugging with the TLC-x as opposed to manual tugging since I don't have the time to devote to manual tugging. I do try to add the squeeze-stretch technique occasionally.

I would love to hear what people think about the article.

admin
March 11th, 2009, 09:57
Did Ron or anyone use 24/7 or as much as possible and got the good results?

Many members here have Progress Galleries, which is easy to sort through because the threads are named for the User ID associated with the photos.

The ability to take a photo that looks like good results is not necessarily the same as making real progress. I urge the use of "forced erect coverage" as a way to measure progress. That is, when you are erect and force skin as far over the glans (without pain) as you can, how much glans is showing (or how far past the tip does your skin reach)?

If you are adding a mm of new coverage per month, you're doing fine. If you're not measuring every month or two, I don't know how someone can post that progress has stalled or similar.

Cheers,
-Ron

Tally
March 12th, 2009, 02:41
Intense short-interval tension may put stresses on the harder-to-grow nerve or muscle structures with unknown effects.
I think this is pure conjecture unless you have some evidence you can point out to us. It is the stress of tension that induces mitosis. Having grown quite a bit by using very intense, short interval tugging, I have not noticed any lack of sensitivity in my inner foreskin and my dartos sheath is quite strong on my new outer skin (particularly when I am cold).

As long as you don't damage your tissue during the tension stage, your skin, nerves, and dartos sheath will all grow at the same rate. The tension just sets the stage for growth to occur. That is how nature works.

finman
March 12th, 2009, 13:40
Quote from the CAT II posting

I have been manually stretching on and off for about 8 months however I got a little over-zealous and quickly got stretch marks...stretch marks = too much tension