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Normaldude79
June 12th, 2009, 18:09
I did the film canister and i got the skin to roll over it rather well flaccid it was oddly comfortable and taping was ok until i put tension on it. it was a extremely low level of tension and it wasnt ok so i immediatly got the tape off in a hurry and actually hurt the skin i had a small cut which i dont know how i did it because the cut was were the tape was at the closest point of the tape to my body.... quite painful and sore now....

any suggestions as i want my foreskin back and im to the point of giving up ... :confused:

Americut
June 12th, 2009, 19:27
My first ever attempt at tugging was the film canister method, learned from the renowned newforeskin.biz website. For me, it was frustration and some mild pain/discomfort. I had a pretty big problem with skin folds while rolling onto the canister, or while taping down. I did this on and off for about two weeks, before I knew it wasn't going to work for me. But I didn't give up, and neither should you. I did an image search for "foreskin restoration" and a few pages down the line, I saw a pic of a CAT. That seemed to catch my eye, so I did the web search and found the site. I read through the testimonials like 3 times before I decided to buy it. I am not unsatisfied with the device, but if I'd known that there were other "bi-directional" tensioners (and that they are called that) out there, I could have done some more research. I've said this plenty, and I'll say it again. I use the Your Skin cone to hold the CAT on. To me, it is way better for that, than the cap it comes with. But I'm going off here. Basically I came here to say that the canister method didn't work for me either, so I found something else that does. But what I found may not be right for you.

Dont give up after trying the free, homemade device. I suggest you invest in a quality tugger from Ron. Or if you decide to focus on inner tension more, research the TLC-X, DTR or CAT. I have the TLC tugger and CAT II.

And how COULD you give up now? You've come this far. Well you made it here right? I had never even seen a restoration forum when I started. It wasn't until like 2 months after using the CAT that I joined here. I dont really understand how some guys even can give up. You're here because you want this. If you give up now, you'll look back in a few years and kick yourself in the head because you'll know that you could very likely have been done by then.

I forgot to mention, Dont forget about manual methods. If you went with the canister because you cant afford a device right now, then save up for a while and do manual in the meantime. If you were cut tight, this would be the thing to do anyway so that you wont have trouble getting the device on.

tony12345
June 12th, 2009, 19:41
When it comes to removing tape do it in the shower after water has soaked in a bit. It peels right off then. Peeling tape dry is painful.

admin
June 13th, 2009, 00:47
Hi,
Sorry to hear about your sore skin.

Gentle tension is all we need to coax our skin cells to divide faster than the background rate of rejuvenation.

Best Wishes,
-Ron

Normaldude79
June 13th, 2009, 02:27
I found Rons site TLCTUGGER first i bought it within the week that i first found the site, Ron and his wife have been the greatest source of info and helped all the time. but as the way i was cut i cant get the tugger to stay on long enough to do anything it slowly pops off, so i took other advice on the canister i did that and have a nice "circumcision" style bandage now since the tape actually ripped a very small cut into the skin... so not only do i feel as if i just got circumcised since i just learned this wasnt required to sustain life for males ( i was stupid for believing my parents i know) I now have the bandage and the appearance of just being cut.... this blows ....

finman
June 13th, 2009, 05:58
How do you manage to injure yourself removing tape? You should not just grit your teeth and pull as hard as you can. Gentle removal, supporting the skin and pulling the tape away from it is best.

If that fails, there are products to assist in tape removal although water is often quite good. Also if it is left for a while the tackiness seems to diminish, maybe due to moisture or oils in the skin.

Are you using medical tape? If you are using carpet/duct/gaffer/Duck tape, I can imagine it is rather hard to remove. Attaching the end of the tape to a door handle, then slamming the door is not recommended :p

Normaldude79
June 13th, 2009, 07:04
How do you manage to injure yourself removing tape? You should not just grit your teeth and pull as hard as you can. Gentle removal, supporting the skin and pulling the tape away from it is best.

If that fails, there are products to assist in tape removal although water is often quite good. Also if it is left for a while the tackiness seems to diminish, maybe due to moisture or oils in the skin.

Are you using medical tape? If you are using carpet/duct/gaffer/Duck tape, I can imagine it is rather hard to remove. Attaching the end of the tape to a door handle, then slamming the door is not recommended :p

Medical tape yes if you read all of my posts/replies you should have read the part where the SKIN that was between the LIP of the canister and tape did NOT look right to me, it looked as if the lip was cutting through the skin so i "panic'd" and was in a suttle HURRY to get it released. after a minute or so AFTER it was off i noticed a spot of blood, i immediatly cleaned it and checked it for a cut and there is a very very small one just big enough to have the small amount of blood, everything is ok now and just neosporin and a roll of gauze to keep the sensitive area covered untill it can heal so i can resume a manuel tugging only for awhile (hopefully it heals before urology appt.! still dont have an "excuse" for why its "injured" and havent gotten any suggestions yet *hint hint guys* )

BTW the medical tapes tackiness increases, unless its paper tape where it virtually has no tackiness at all....

cobra
June 13th, 2009, 10:55
Forget tape. I end up with sores no matter how careful I am with it. Do manual until you have enough skin for a tapeless method. You probably won't be able to just let this go and not restore. It will bother you now that you know the truth, and wonder what you might be able to experience and enjoy as you restore yourself back to full manhood. And, really, how hard is it to stretch your skin a couple times a day until you have enough for a tapeless tugger to stay on?

PS-- tell the doc your wife got carried away and bit it.

Distalero
June 13th, 2009, 11:27
Actually I've used Johnson & Johnson paper tape for years, and it has more than enough adhesive for me. I think it's always a matter of a combination of tape and skin type. Some tapes are stickier, and some skin types are drier, or at least the general area is drier, allowing most types of tape to stick.

There's a technique to canister taping when you use paper tape (or any kind). You should apply a strip of tape to the canister so that it faces sticky side out, then roll shaft skin onto that, arranging the skin to be even and flat all the way around, then apply another strip of tape over that, half on the skin, half on the canister. Sand the outside of canister to give it a tooth that the tape can grip.

Wash the canister every day before use, and after use that same day if you want to lessen the chance of creepy crawlers. And as many have said, when you take it all off, roll the skin gently from the tape, not the other way around, go very slow, and you will see a minimum of little skin tears. I've seen maybe 3 in the last 6 years.

greg_b
June 13th, 2009, 11:54
...still dont have an "excuse" for why its "injured" and havent gotten any suggestions yet *hint hint guys* )...

Skin tears usually because too much tension causes it to fail. Either you pinched it between the tape and the canister (which in essence cause too much tension in that area) or the tape pulled a small layer of your skin off as you quickly removed it.

To help prevent this from happening again, you can try modifying what you were doing. Putting the tape on more accurately/gently may help. And there are several tips for removing tape.

First, remove it slowly and gently. Roll the skin off the tape, rather than pull the tape off the skin. sound goofy, but makes a big difference. And most importantly, soak the tape in water for a few minutes before trying to remove it. Even better, leave the tape on for 24 hrs, then take a shower and remove it at the end of your shower.

Don't give up. Restoration is like that. Actually, the same thing, more or less, happened to me when I first began. I too used the canister method. Everything seemed fine, until one day my skin felt a little oddly sore. When I looked more carefully, I found a skin tear and realized that I had had too much tension as I moved around during the day. So I learned (actually I switched at that point to t-tape strips and an insert) and kept going. there is a learning curve to this endeavor.

Best wishes

Normaldude79
June 13th, 2009, 12:36
PS-- tell the doc your wife got carried away and bit it.

Ah thanks for the tip cobra however ah it would have to translate to "husband" or "boyfriend" since im gay but still couldnt use it as im single lol and since this would be the FIRST time meeting this particular doctor i wouldnt come out so to speak until i get a feel for how open he is as surprising enough i had a doctor not do his job and suggested i find a nice girl and enjoy life so in the medical sense i watch what i say until i know its safe (well since i can easily pass for straight)

finman
June 13th, 2009, 12:58
Why do you need an excuse for the urology department? It is your penis, not theirs and it is not their concern.

Who's to say you did not catch it in your pants zipper? (whatever the term is in the US?). Maybe tell them that is the last time you are going swimming with your friend's snapping turtle, or say if they think that is bad they should see the state you left your boyfriend's dick in, more bite marks than an alligator wrestler. How about an accident with your friend's dog at the nudist camp, nude sunbathing when they decided to cut the grass, an accident with the filter in your swimming pool or your paper shredder.

You see there are endless excuses but I think the truth is better than a lie!

Normaldude79
June 14th, 2009, 09:10
Why do you need an excuse for the urology department? It is your penis, not theirs and it is not their concern.
You see there are endless excuses but I think the truth is better than a lie!

LOL Finman !

What it looks like i did is take a layer of skin off its a small area id think slightly larger than a quarter. i have neosporin and its gaused up to stop irritation of my clothes lookin better already. But still VERY sensitive to warm water in the shower :eek:

He will be inspecting it and if i did tell the truth about restoration and being pissed off about the circ id probably get sent to a sex therapist ( I dont remember where i read it but apparently urology doctors dont like dealing with men that dont like that they have been circ'd )

But on the other hand giving the benefit of the doubt to my new doctor in urology he is a specialist in mens issues ( ED PE Infertility) maybe he is aware and even so open to men that are restoring but at the same time i dont want him to think my pain is caused by the restoring (had the pain prior to learning about restoration)

finman
June 14th, 2009, 18:05
A sex therapist , hey! Sounds like an interesting experience if it is a guy for you or lady for me!

Maybe he will think you are experimenting with penis enlargement. I can see that if he thinks it is PE or restoration, he will immediately say that is cousing your pain. Tricky one.

Normaldude79
June 19th, 2009, 15:31
GUYS !!!! Ok i think i may have taken a few more layers of skin off than i thought ( if its even possible) at first it was sensitive to everything if water even ran over it in the shower id jump from it. its steadly decreasing in sensitivity but at the same time its a wound and i definatly dont want it infected so ive been using a little bit of neosporin and rolled gause (loosely) to keep it clean but its sensitive to the neosporin.... argh can this get any worse ! talk about fustrated.

Americut
June 22nd, 2009, 00:07
NormalDude, this is embarrassing and retarded but 2 days ago I was trimming my pubes with scissors. I wasn't blinking at all so my eyes got dry and before I knew it they did the sort of involuntary blink and... I accidentally snipped some shaft skin :o. It bled a little. This was at night, so when the bleeding stopped, I put some neosporin and went to sleep. I went over it with hydrogen peroxide followed by Neosporin, 3-4 times a day for the next 2 days, with q-tips. I didn't have to stop restoring because it was so far back on the shaft. It is completely healed after 2 and 1/2days! I know peroxide stings, but it is great for cleaning wounds. I've never treated a cut so diligently as I did this one, and it is the fastest heal-up I've ever experienced.

ih8vtec13
June 22nd, 2009, 02:22
NormalDude, this is embarrassing and retarded but 2 days ago I was trimming my pubes with scissors. I wasn't blinking at all so my eyes got dry and before I knew it they did the sort of involuntary blink and... I accidentally snipped some shaft skin :o. It bled a little. This was at night, so when the bleeding stopped, I put some neosporin and went to sleep. I went over it with hydrogen peroxide followed by Neosporin, 3-4 times a day for the next 2 days, with q-tips. I didn't have to stop restoring because it was so far back on the shaft. It is completely healed after 2 and 1/2days! I know peroxide stings, but it is great for cleaning wounds. I've never treated a cut so diligently as I did this one, and it is the fastest heal-up I've ever experienced.
You know sharp objects and penises don't mix well already ;)

Normaldude79
June 22nd, 2009, 09:14
I know peroxide stings, but it is great for cleaning wounds. .

Peroxde is great for inital cleaning but very bad afterwards it can actually stop healing in some instances as it kills new skin cells I actuallly experienced it and it was also confirmed by both of my dermitologists (probably spelled that wrong)


I neosporin and gauze wrap it for work ( looks like a circumcision bandage how ironic !) and soak it in eucerin lotion while at home.

Americut
June 22nd, 2009, 11:26
Peroxde is great for inital cleaning but very bad afterwards it can actually stop healing in some instances as it kills new skin cells I actuallly experienced it and it was also confirmed by both of my dermitologists (probably spelled that wrong)

Strange how quickly I healed. I didn't just use it on this cut, this past week. I also removed an ingrown toenail and used peroxide on it just as much. While I was removing the nail, the knife snagged and when it came loose, I cut a bit of skin (I'm usually not this freaking clumsy :D). Anyway, I used peroxide and neosporin on that every day too and it completely healed in 3 days. I understand what you're saying about the peroxide, but it makes me wonder why its working so well for me. Does less of this damage occur, when used along with neosporin?

You know sharp objects and penises don't mix well already ;)

haha, yeah yeah :p

Normaldude79
June 23rd, 2009, 17:35
Does anyone know if the shaft skin is easier to or more prone to scarring?

As you have all read the tape took what i thought was a layer of skin the major sensitivity has gone away and from what ive seen is its healing up ok i use neosporin and gauze while at work to protect it. and eucerin lotion while at home. from other skin injuries (cuts etc) its in the last stage of healing the itch argh ! but still looks red and has a "scarred" look !!!

This isnt a good thing as said before i have a urology appt coming up in a week ! dont really want to explain that i hurt it while trying to restore as im going for testicle and lower abdominal pain/discomfort i dont want the urologist to blow it off as pain due to restoring, as i had the pain PRIOR to even learning that the circumcision was optional and that i could restore the foreskin (as much as possible)

finman
June 23rd, 2009, 17:45
I don't want the urologist to blow it off

That conflicts with what you told us before :p:p:p

Distalero
June 23rd, 2009, 21:55
Does anyone know if the shaft skin is easier to or more prone to scarring?

As you have all read the tape took what i thought was a layer of skin the major sensitivity has gone away and from what ive seen is its healing up ok i use neosporin and gauze while at work to protect it. and eucerin lotion while at home. from other skin injuries (cuts etc) its in the last stage of healing the itch argh ! but still looks red and has a "scarred" look !!!

This isnt a good thing as said before i have a urology appt coming up in a week ! dont really want to explain that i hurt it while trying to restore as im going for testicle and lower abdominal pain/discomfort i dont want the urologist to blow it off as pain due to restoring, as i had the pain PRIOR to even learning that the circumcision was optional and that i could restore the foreskin (as much as possible)

If this helps, urologists see far more bizarre, or concerning things than a red mark on the shaft of a penis. Don't worry. He may ask, but most likely not, because he will be focusing on your symptoms, will be take a history of facts that might have led up to your symptoms, and will be focusing on a physical exam, and perhaps imaging, like an ultrasound study.

This will all take his attention, so he will pretty much ignore minor marks.

Normaldude79
June 24th, 2009, 09:26
That conflicts with what you told us before :p:p:p

huh?????

either u have a mind like melol bad finman or there is a misunderstanding

Normaldude79
June 24th, 2009, 09:29
If this helps, urologists see far more bizarre, or concerning things than a red mark on the shaft of a penis. Don't worry. He may ask, but most likely not, because he will be focusing on your symptoms, will be take a history of facts that might have led up to your symptoms, and will be focusing on a physical exam, and perhaps imaging, like an ultrasound study.

This will all take his attention, so he will pretty much ignore minor marks.

ultrasound already done UA and ua culture done as well there is an approx 1 inch red band mark and the skin there doesnt look like the rest. (EXAMPLE: The shaft skin changes appearance at the circ scar line)

Distalero
June 24th, 2009, 21:46
ultrasound already done UA and ua culture done as well there is an approx 1 inch red band mark and the skin there doesnt look like the rest. (EXAMPLE: The shaft skin changes appearance at the circ scar line)


Without telling us what it is, has he already made a diagnosis?

If you tell him about trying for restoration, he may or may not think you're a wacko, but so what. We're all wackos here, he's been a wacko over something in his past, you can bet. You can always take the initiative and ask him if he thinks it's a tape allergy, or whatever.

All he can do is tell you to be careful, which is the same advice you'll get here, too. If he's a prick, and lectures, then you can always just blow it off, it being your life and not his, or you can change doctors, or whatever brings a solution to any anxiety.

Good luck

Normaldude79
June 25th, 2009, 02:04
Without telling us what it is, has he already made a diagnosis?
Good luck

I got the ultrasound done immediately from my primary doctor since i have a pain/ache that wasnt going away. The US showed a few small cysts and hydrocelle that wasnt medically a big deal so they said, but the pain/ache was sticking around and gradually getting worse. So they refered me to urology but to do so I have to get all the required testing done prior to the first visit (reason for the UA and UA culture) this was over a month ago (My thanks to the pharmacy for the hydrocodone to get through the month plus of pain)

My first urology appt is next week (FINALLY) and this particular doctor is a specialist not only in urology obviously, but a specialist in Male only urology and is also a specialist in male fertility etc basically, finally a doctor dedicated to "men only" issues in healthcare. So im sure he has heard of restoration (even if he may not agree with it)