Touch-Up Surgery

[David]

Pyrateer mentioned that he might consider surgery to pull together the foreskin opening (since the frenar band is removed during circumcision). I personally know a long-time intactivist and restorer who had that surgery (called a purse-string), which was expensive and was not covered by insurance, and he said it was a waste of money. Check out the doctor's "happy customers" before paying anything!

[Peanut]

Thanx David. Since starting restoration I have often mused that in the end some touch-up surgery might be good. But it always comes down to not wanting a knife down there every again. Also, it would seem that some nerve loss and scar tissue is part of surgery. If you ‘read to fine print’ on general plastic/cosmetic surgeries in the past, there can be considerable nerve loss. I am curious to know more specifically why your friend considered his surgery a waste of money. Again, thank you.

[David]

I don't know the specifics, but this man is very knowledgeable about the intact penis, the restored penis, and the frenar band, so I trust his judgement when he told me it was a waste of money. (I didn't want to intrude and make him feel any worse by asking him the details.)

[twist3dfck]

I don't know the specifics, but this man is very knowledgeable about the intact penis, the restored penis, and the frenar band, so I trust his judgement when he told me it was a waste of money. (I didn't want to intrude and make him feel any worse by asking him the details.)

3 months ago, I started re-using the TLC. With it's conical shape I thought that somehow the band would become narrower. So far I find that it helps do the trick but will only notice it when flaccid.

I still strongly feel that I might need some form of touch up surgery though because I have so much slack skin on the underside as a result of dorsal slit. But first I need to grow more skin (another 2 years perhaps) and will have to find a surgeon that specializes in this type of reconstruction.

[admin]

With it's conical shape I thought that somehow the band would become narrower.
Do you keep your skin puckered beyond the tip of the glans 24/7?

-Ron

[chobbs]

I am not convinced that any particular tugging is going to make any difference in the tip. That skin at some point was already the width of your shaft and/or glans. I don't see how it is going to grow to be smaller by using anything special. There have been plenty of examples of guys whose tip has tightened just on its own. One example that comes to mind is Priapus over at newforeskin.biz - http://www.newforeskin.biz/members/priapus.htm ... you may need an account to access, but it is worth it for his progress gallery/synopsis alone.

I am considering the touch up surgery for one reason only, because I hope it would get me erect coverage without having to grow an extra 4-6 inches of skin. Basically, when erect, I would love to have it behave as it would have if left uncut initially. The skin is pulled fairly taut and the ridged band holds it over the glans (for guys that have full erect coverage at any rate). Since we don't have a ridged band, the surgery is the only thing that might work to accomplish that. An example of it working, and the great result that can be achieved, can be found here: http://www.rebel.net.au/~aldous/page02.html

To me, the surgery is just a way to save potentially years of tugging time and have erect coverage that more closely mimics what I would have had if left intact. I don't want to have 8-10 inches of un-stretched skin, which is what I would need in order to have erect coverage, when I only need to have a bit under 6 for full flaccid coverage with a small amount of overhang. To me that much skin, when flaccid, would be unwieldy. If all I wanted was a tighter tip when flaccid then I wouldn't bother with the surgery as every report I have seen from those who have restored is that it will tighten on its own with just a bit of overhang.

- Chris

[twist3dfck]

... An example of it working, and the great result that can be achieved, can be found here: http://www.rebel.net.au/~aldous/page02.html (http://www.rebel.net.au/~aldous/page02.html)


Chris,

'Neo-Orifice' reduction is totally what I need. I originally thought of this procedure a year ago but did not have a name for it. I even created from paintbrush a picture of the procedure that I want done and posted it on another frc forum only to get nasty replies from people overly reacting on getting back under the knife to fix it. Even the admin wrote me back with a lot of discouraging and unpleasant remarks. So I ended up deleting the picture from the forum.

My procedure though, will involve only two half inch incisions around the rim of the new foreskin located on the 2 sides (left and right) of the frenulum, then each will be sutured in the opposite direction, thus narrowing the opening, without removing any of the restored skin. Mr. Aldous was restoring for about 4 years before he did his final touch up. I would probably need about 2 to 3 years more before I can have my touch up. Enough time for me to find a good surgeon whose specialty is 'Neo-Orifice Reduction'.

Chris, a million thanks for sharing this info!

[twist3dfck]

Do you keep your skin puckered beyond the tip of the glans 24/7?

-Ron


I tug about 8 hours a day only the rest, I use tape to keep the head inside, and yes I keep the skin puckered beyond the tip as much as possible.

[chobbs]

There is a definite lashback on many boards about this topic. It is sad that guys so open minded about restoration in the first place end up being close minded about this particular subject. While I understand hesitancy to go anywhere near a knife again, I would much rather a plastic surgeon (somebody who is often chiefly considered with aesthetics) do the procedure than the typical docs. Hell, I wish my parents had a plastic surgeon do my original circ - maybe it wouldn't have been lopsided. :)

I still have a ways to go before I would have the procedure done. Right now I have full coverage when fully turtled, but there is a world of difference between turtled and normal/heavy hang for me. Walking around naked it almost always will just roll back behind the corona. My shaft is about the same width as the glans and I think that makes a difference for how well it stays rolled forward. Anyway, I will probably start looking into the procedure when I reach full coverage at a normal hang and hopefully have found somebody to do the procedure when I get to covering my heavy hang. I am hoping to hit this point (enough skin for full coverage at normal hang - whether it stays or not is another story entirely) at my 2 year anniversary this coming Halloween.

I figure you can always keep tugging afterwards as well. For example, perhaps after the procedure it still doesn't stay in place while erect. So you would tug for awhile longer and get a little bit more skin so there isn't quite so much tension on it while erect. At some point you will reach the stage where it will stay past the glans and it is likely to be well before what you would have needed just growing skin. That is my theory anyway.

- Chris

[stonny]

Chris,

'Neo-Orifice' reduction is totally what I need. I originally thought of this procedure a year ago but did not have a name for it. I even created from paintbrush a picture of the procedure that I want done and posted it on another frc forum only to get nasty replies from people overly reacting on getting back under the knife to fix it. Even the admin wrote me back with a lot of discouraging and unpleasant remarks. So I ended up deleting the picture from the forum.

My procedure though, will involve only two half inch incisions around the rim of the new foreskin located on the 2 sides (left and right) of the frenulum, then each will be sutured in the opposite direction, thus narrowing the opening, without removing any of the restored skin. Mr. Aldous was restoring for about 4 years before he did his final touch up. I would probably need about 2 to 3 years more before I can have my touch up. Enough time for me to find a good surgeon whose specialty is 'Neo-Orifice Reduction'.

Chris, a million thanks for sharing this info!

could you post the paintbursh picture if you still have it? id be interested to see it.