Borneo
April 22nd, 2007, 19:54
I just had a big argument with a friend of mine over circumcision, and I have to vent. Thanks fort putting up with me.
So, a little bit on him. He is a fetishist. He loves butchered cocks. I resent having mine cut off, as most on this site are too. He hates muslims. Thinks that they all have a potential to kill until there are none left, and that religion itself is violent...except whe it comes to their practice of circumcision. The he throws out them as an argument for it, as if they're his greatest allies. He is a semitophile. Not to sound anti-semitic, but he is totally enamored with Jewish culture, yiddish, and especially their practice of routine circumcision.
I won't bore you with his rationales, since we've all heard them numerous times. Let's just say the non-sequiturs of...
Europeans think we're barbaric for doing this...they killed 6 million jews.
Tonsilectomies, vaccinations, apendectomies on children without consent.
cleanliness me:How hard is it to get a boy to play with his cock in the shower?.. Him: I know I'm clean, and I'd rather not wash it 4 times a day.:rolleyes:
Him: I've had almost fainting spell orgasms, if it feels any better with one, then I couldn't handle it.
Africa/AIDS study, penile cancer, infections, babies don't feel anything...the list goes on what he said.
Then he made some comments that I frankly find VERY insulting.
He asked if I've had trouble with feeling, and I said all my life. Without asking in what way, or for details, he just concluded that it's mostly in my mind. If I'd been allowed to explain that I've never been able to feel anything more than a basic touch wearing a condom, and have always had to bring myself to climax manually, it probably wouldnt've made a a damn bit of difference in what he thinks.
He told me that none of my life's problems are from me having my foreskin removed as an infant, and this is a ridiculous issue to waste time on. In other words...he wanted me to shut up, admit he's right, bow before his superior intellect, because I'm just an irrational mental infant having a pity party.
Once I bring up the fact that nowhere else in the industrialized world practices RIC, he ignores that and tries to make the connection between me (and by extension intactivists themselves) are akin to the loud minor vocal minorities that want creationism taught in science classes, because they can bring up just as many "scientists" to support their idea that the world is only 6000 years old, who pursue that goal fanatically. I threw that back at him saying that he's right. That the USA is the last modern country in the world who performs RIC, and we are trying to tell the rest of the world, who don't, whats best for them.
In bringing up muslim/jewish religious customs, he asked if I would ever expect those countries to ban the practice. I told him I had no idea, but that I did read somewhere about a year ago that practice is on the wane in Israel, although I didn't quantify it, since I don't reaally know by how much. He said, and I quote..."Hooo-Kay. Now I think I'm talking to The Michigan Militia now.:eek: There is no way. We're just on an impasse here..." We hung up on each other.
I was called irrational
I was told it's all in my head
Having a pity party
A member of a fanatical cult
A white separatist
And a liar
...by someone who I thought was a friend. Is he really?
So, a little bit on him. He is a fetishist. He loves butchered cocks. I resent having mine cut off, as most on this site are too. He hates muslims. Thinks that they all have a potential to kill until there are none left, and that religion itself is violent...except whe it comes to their practice of circumcision. The he throws out them as an argument for it, as if they're his greatest allies. He is a semitophile. Not to sound anti-semitic, but he is totally enamored with Jewish culture, yiddish, and especially their practice of routine circumcision.
I won't bore you with his rationales, since we've all heard them numerous times. Let's just say the non-sequiturs of...
Europeans think we're barbaric for doing this...they killed 6 million jews.
Tonsilectomies, vaccinations, apendectomies on children without consent.
cleanliness me:How hard is it to get a boy to play with his cock in the shower?.. Him: I know I'm clean, and I'd rather not wash it 4 times a day.:rolleyes:
Him: I've had almost fainting spell orgasms, if it feels any better with one, then I couldn't handle it.
Africa/AIDS study, penile cancer, infections, babies don't feel anything...the list goes on what he said.
Then he made some comments that I frankly find VERY insulting.
He asked if I've had trouble with feeling, and I said all my life. Without asking in what way, or for details, he just concluded that it's mostly in my mind. If I'd been allowed to explain that I've never been able to feel anything more than a basic touch wearing a condom, and have always had to bring myself to climax manually, it probably wouldnt've made a a damn bit of difference in what he thinks.
He told me that none of my life's problems are from me having my foreskin removed as an infant, and this is a ridiculous issue to waste time on. In other words...he wanted me to shut up, admit he's right, bow before his superior intellect, because I'm just an irrational mental infant having a pity party.
Once I bring up the fact that nowhere else in the industrialized world practices RIC, he ignores that and tries to make the connection between me (and by extension intactivists themselves) are akin to the loud minor vocal minorities that want creationism taught in science classes, because they can bring up just as many "scientists" to support their idea that the world is only 6000 years old, who pursue that goal fanatically. I threw that back at him saying that he's right. That the USA is the last modern country in the world who performs RIC, and we are trying to tell the rest of the world, who don't, whats best for them.
In bringing up muslim/jewish religious customs, he asked if I would ever expect those countries to ban the practice. I told him I had no idea, but that I did read somewhere about a year ago that practice is on the wane in Israel, although I didn't quantify it, since I don't reaally know by how much. He said, and I quote..."Hooo-Kay. Now I think I'm talking to The Michigan Militia now.:eek: There is no way. We're just on an impasse here..." We hung up on each other.
I was called irrational
I was told it's all in my head
Having a pity party
A member of a fanatical cult
A white separatist
And a liar
...by someone who I thought was a friend. Is he really?