OK. Circ/HIV Campaign. What Needs to Happen?

[Joseph]

Alright.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting sick and tired of the fucking ad campaign being used to promote the Circ/HIV hoax.

Check out this latest load of crap:

"Male circumcision can reduce the risk to men of acquiring HIV from their sexual activity, but they must also know that it is not a magic bullet. Men who are circumcised, and their sexual partners, must continue to take additional HIV prevention measures..." - So the merit of being circumcised is...

http://www.plusnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=86444


"They tell us that you must [still] use condoms," he said. - SO THE POINT OF CIRCUMCISING IS... Money needs to be wasted on an ineffective HIV prevention method, when it could be spent on condoms because...

http://www.plusnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=85726


"We have heard that if you get circumcised you will be safe, then you are protected - taking the blanket off is important if you want to be able to have sex. Most girls who want a baby, they also want you to be circumcised now..." No. You will not be safe, no you will not be protected. Poor men. Poor women. Poor children.

http://www.plusnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=87315


"We will, in the near future, offer infant medical circumcision; this has the potential to help people in time before their sexual debut." - Or, you could just tell them and not mutilate them from birth. HIV is the pretext, children are the target. Deliberate endorsement of blatant human rights violation. Despicable.

http://www.plusnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=87074

And then THIS shit.

http://www.circumcisionandhiv.com/2009/12/marie-stopes-international-and-the-promotion-of-magical-thinking.html

And then they can keep doing it because they've got big names like the WHO, UNAIDS, UNICEF, etc., and possibly very soon to be the CDC.

So like, what is it we have to do? What action can we intactivists take to challenge this crock? What doctors? What big names? Colleges? National Health Organizations (IE: RACP, CPSBC), Institutions do we have to contact, get behind etc. to slap WHO etc. upside the head?

They're selling this myth on a whole truckload of baloney, and it's going to cost the lives of millions in Africa, not to mention the disgusting ethical implications of circumcising children.

It's seriously beginning to get on my nerves how these major organizations endorse circumcision using blatantly, maybe even deliberately flawed studies.

Something needs to be done to expose this hoax for the circumcision crusade based on compleat and utter pseudo science that it is. Something MAJOR.

Is NOCIRC getting 1mil? Couldn't NOCIRC, Intact America, NORM-UK, etc. collaborate with known physicians, other organizations etc. to create one big challange highlighting the flaws in these studies, the reality of the American and Israelian situation etc. to bash WHO, CDC etc in the face?

I'm so tired of watching these organization piss in people's mouths and having them call it rain.

Sorry for my rant.

I'm seriously wondering when and if something is going to happen.

[Joseph]

For what it's worth:

Intact America is sponsoring two 2Care petitions, one for the AAP and the other for the CDC.

If you can, sign them.

I don't know what that will do, but we gotta do SOMETHING...

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/119095364

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/760537185

[Yunus]

It seems that it is the beginning of world's morality ending.
The world can't distinguish which is wrong and which is true anymore.

Immoral,horrible,and terrible thing like circumcision engulfed rationality of the world and made this immoral,horrible,and terrible circumcision became a rational and right thing.

That is why the film 2012 We Were Warned is very popular in the world because it may be the beginning of the end of time and the good world will become the world of men,boys,infants' suffering and crying.
It seems that the devils were successful to engulf the world into their lies such as Africa-HIV-Circumcision studies,which were flawed studies,and darkness and destroy the goodness of God's creation by circumcision.
The devils mislead worldwide people by bringing this circumcision as the spiritual redemption via medical sciences.

Brother Joseph,we can't give up to this madness of circumcision.We must stop this madness of circumcision which was brought by circumfetish people.

I'm not like others,I will struggle to end circumcision in the name of God,which is the God of all religion.Because we were dissociated by the God's Holy Blood from the madness of circumcision,so there is no religious reason for circumcision.

[rtnt]

I think it is overwhelmingly evident and obvious that the WHO and UNAIDS are lying about circumcision reducing HIV risk.

For one thing the WHO and UNAIDS claim that nearly 100% of HIV infections in Africa are caused by heterosexual sex. That's not possible though. Especially when you take into consideration all the sources and studies showing that most HIV infections in Africa are caused by medical procedures to include immunization shots, and that in most countries in the world about 15% or less of HIV infections are caused by heterosexual sex.

Also if it was true that nearly 100% of HIV infections in Africa were caused by heterosexual sex and that circumcised males were 60% less likely to get HIV, then in all of Africa circumcised males would have about a 60% lower rate of HIV than uncircumcised males. But that is not the case and in at least 7 African countries circumcised males have higher AIDS rates than uncircumcised males. If that isn't indisputable evidence that the WHO and UNAIDS are lying about circumcision reducing HIV risk, that is at least very compelling evidence.

If the CDC and AAP recommend that all baby boys in the U.S. be circumcised to help fight against AIDS, there will be a lot of pressure on states that don't pay for circumcision through Medicaid to start paying for it. Hopefully those states will defend their decisions to not pay for circumcision by pointing it out that the claims of circumcision reducing HIV risk are fraudulent. That would help make a lot more people realize that we're being lied to about circumcision protecting against AIDS.