Getting Him Ready For Another Cut...

[anon poster]

This is not Muslim-bashing, but get a load of this photograph and the caption beneath it.

Why are humans such violent, sick bastards sometimes? Why?

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20091227/capt.1a3ee86e0b36405397343a760ad69c7a.mideast_leba non_ashoura_bei119.jpg?x=400&y=285&q=85&sig=bxxfZEUuc4ylEzkDXSyhqQ--

A Lebanese child cries as he is cut in the head during Ashoura day in the southern market town of Nabatiyeh, Lebanon, Sunday, Dec. 27, 2009. Sunday's commemorations marked the climax of Ashoura, the yearly mourning period in which Shiite Muslims remember the seventh century death of the Prophet Muhammad's grandson, Imam Hussein, in a battle in the central city of Karbala

[box_of_cereal]

I'm anti-reliigion, but I don't want to start a whole debate about this... I just want to make a point.

If you met someone who didn't have a clue about circumcision, and proposed the idea of willingly cutting off their foreskin, they would think you're either insane or mentally ill.
But because someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that someone said that God spoke to them and told them to cut off their foreskin, people accept this as though they were told that "grass is green".
Nowadays, if someone said that God told them to cut bits and pieces off their baby, they get hauled away to prison or a mental hospital.

Wouldn't circumcising your child be like flipping the bird to The Big Guy? Almost every religion that I've heard of seems to think that God made Man in his image, and that God is perfect in everyway, and that God made the body perfect. By having the attitude of "I don't like foreskin, cause it's gross" and circumcising your kid, isn't it like saying "I know better than you, and your 'perfect' body isn't perfect enough for my taste"?

[Joseph]

The short, simple and easy answer to whatever question you asked can be immediately answered with "god wanted it this way."

I think we try too hard when we actually try to make sense out of deliberate belief in non-sense.

"Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. ...There is no spoon... Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself."

[finman]

If you met someone who didn't have a clue about circumcision, and proposed the idea of willingly cutting off their foreskin, they would think you're either insane or mentally ill

So are you saying the majority of the medical profession in the United States are insane?

I thought most US parents, when it is suggested for their sons (or advised, as there is a fee to be earned by the doctor) are more than willing to go along with it, and even request it.

Far from considering the doctor insane, they believe the barbaric, mutilating procedure is normal, healthy and desirable.

[Orig -poster]

So are you saying the majority of the medical profession in the United States are insane?

I thought most US parents, when it is suggested for their sons (or advised, as there is a fee to be earned by the doctor) are more than willing to go along with it, and even request it.

Far from considering the doctor insane, they believe the barbaric, mutilating procedure is normal, healthy and desirable.

Throwing around terms like "insanity" as some kind of clinical diagnosis probably isn't helpful here, but there does seem to be a LOT of psychological pathologies surrounding circumcision in the US.

It's a little like Lord of the Flies - the kids go murderously crazy, but when adults finally reach the island, they are sheepish, embarassed almost about how they were acting. In essence, Europeans are the adults here, representing the rational approach to the issue of genital integrity. They look on at the "insanity" of the US on this topic and shake their collective heads (no pun intended).

OF course, the forces of the status quo have mounted a new aggressive push in the name of HIV prevention, so a long, slow recognition of the practice's sickness may slow even further.

[finman]

But we keep on reading that HIV rates are higher in the US than western Europe, despite a much higher percentage of circumcised men. :confused:

[Nurse2009]

But we keep on reading that HIV rates are higher in the US than western Europe, despite a much higher percentage of circumcised men. :confused:

Europe actually has tougher immigration policies. Besides that, foreskin hygiene education is better. American doctors have an obsession with treating rather than preventing. As such, foreskin hygiene education may be minimal here.

[randywolff5558]

Europe actually has tougher immigration policies. Besides that, foreskin hygiene education is better. American doctors have an obsession with treating rather than preventing. As such, foreskin hygiene education may be minimal here.

That is because their way of keeping us all hygienic is to amputate the parts they think are dirty.

Think GOD they let us get away with antiperspirant instead of amputating the arms to get rid of the arm pit. LOL

KOT

Randy

[Unregistered]

In a very interesting, ironic twist, many European hospitals have banned physicians from wearing neckties, as these are huge carriers of viruses and bacteria.

The US hasn't bothered to do so yet.

Also, US physicians are notoriously terrible about washing their hands in hospitals.

My point? It is utterly bizarre that the one cleanliness thing the US medical system is absolutely obsessed with is cutting off part of a baby's genitals.

Hand washing, shrug.

Neckties, shrug.

Foreskin? THIS CANNOT STAND!