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PrepuceRegenerator1
March 13th, 2010, 19:20
In this day and age, proponents of female circumcision in the civilized world are unheard of. But they still do, sadly, exist.
I recently found this channel on YouTube which promotes both female and male circumcision. Whoever runs it is spooning out propaganda left and right. While I doubt there are many gullible enough to take heed to this propaganda, it must be stopped regardless. If you know anybody who has access to whatever justice system exists on YouTube, please tell them to report this channel immediately. However, I think that with the policy YouTube has on freedom of speech, that might not do any good. We can try though.
J4rstr
March 13th, 2010, 20:03
Do you have a link to help us find this?
If comments are enabled, we can sure comment on it!
J.
Americut
March 13th, 2010, 21:36
Are you referring to "cleansexy"? I'm pretty big on youtube intactivism, and I come across that user on many circ videos. I've more than once been bothered by the fact that there is a "report background image" option on a person's profile... but no "report user" option. We may not be able to report people for MGM propaganda (as it's still legal mutilation), but surely we SHOULD be able to report those whom support FGM (as it's illegal).
PrepuceRegenerator1
March 13th, 2010, 22:03
Do you have a link to help us find this?
If comments are enabled, we can sure comment on it!
J.
Sorry, meant to put a link on the original post. I swear I'm losing my head.
Here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/legalizefemalecirc
PrepuceRegenerator1
March 13th, 2010, 22:05
Are you referring to "cleansexy"? I'm pretty big on youtube intactivism, and I come across that user on many circ videos. I've more than once been bothered by the fact that there is a "report background image" option on a person's profile... but no "report user" option. We may not be able to report people for MGM propaganda (as it's still legal mutilation), but surely we SHOULD be able to report those whom support FGM (as it's illegal).
No, although cleansexy is mentioned in one of her (legalizefemalecirc's) videos. They both are about equal in their stupidity.
xx Royal xx
March 17th, 2010, 18:01
Well, at least they're being equal. That is, aside from the whole circumcision part.
LoveShy
March 20th, 2010, 16:46
This has to be a joke
deadhand31
March 20th, 2010, 23:41
Ok, come on guys!!! Don't you get it? This guy is an intactivist! If he were to be discussing what we all discuss, he would be dismissed. This guy, however, made presentations that will piss people off. Get their attention. He will cause ripples. Eventually, when enough people have become enraged, they'll need to acknowledge that the reasons he gives are those that they give for having it done to BOYS. Problem is, hipocrytes don't like admitting what they are.
admin
March 21st, 2010, 00:14
Ok, come on guys!!! Don't you get it? This guy is an intactivist! If he were to be discussing what we all discuss, he would be dismissed. This guy, however, made presentations that will piss people off. Get their attention. He will cause ripples. Eventually, when enough people have become enraged, they'll need to acknowledge that the reasons he gives are those that they give for having it done to BOYS. Problem is, hipocrytes don't like admitting what they are.
Regardless of what the source of the YouTube content truly is, we must treat it rationally and slam-dunk the idea of FGM while making the case for equal protection for boys.
deadhand31
March 21st, 2010, 23:36
I'm not saying don't slam-dunk the idea. Anyone who's seen a video of one of these procedures (warning, it will disturb you), will say it's barbaric and terrible. I'm just saying that sometimes a little street-theater is what's needed to get people in an uproar. Even a pebble tossed down the right spot on a mountainside can start an avalanche.
Americut
March 22nd, 2010, 02:22
Ok, come on guys!!! Don't you get it? This guy is an intactivist! If he were to be discussing what we all discuss, he would be dismissed. This guy, however, made presentations that will piss people off. Get their attention. He will cause ripples. Eventually, when enough people have become enraged, they'll need to acknowledge that the reasons he gives are those that they give for having it done to BOYS. Problem is, hipocrytes don't like admitting what they are.
Never even crossed my mind, hah. Not sure I believe it though. Still is possible. Hmm.
1Taoist
March 31st, 2010, 01:07
Could be. But it doesn't work, cuz people already separate men in their minds. One of those "sounds brilliant on paper" things but just doesn't work. Reverse intention intentionally never works. It only works IF this is legit- meaning it actually gets people to reconsider MGM if this is genuinely pushing FGM. It's gotta have real wrongness behind it to actually produce a counter effect.
John Flushing
March 3rd, 2011, 08:02
If you watch their videos then you will clearly see that the Youtube channels of Cleansexy and Legalize_female_circ are each meant as a satire. Whoever is behind those channels took the same ridiculous arguments that people use for M.G.M., and instead used them to promote F.G.M. This exposes the hypocritical double standard that exists in the United States. (In all honesty, I wonder if the person behind these channels is Ron Low or somebody.)
It is clear to me that the Youtube user is dedicated to banning M.G.M. and is thereby a part of the "Intactivist" movement. The arguments that the male genitalia is difficult to clean, may become infected, etcetera may be actual, serious arguments that people use to promote M.G.M., but if you use these same arguments to promote the amputation of any other normal body part (which, in the case of Legalize_female_circ, is the lips of a woman's vagina) then their inherent ridiculousness becomes obvious.
Legalize_female_circ, in particular, concludes by arguing that to allow male circumcision, but not female circumcision, is sexist. According to his (satirical) line of reasoning, girls deserve the same protection (provided by circumcision) from sexually transmitted diseases as boys. Cleansexy, however, argues that Aids can be prevented by a simple procedure called female circumcision, which removes less tissue than male circumcision. Cleansexy moves on to cite numerous African studies, the same types of studies used by those who are in favour of M.G.M.
Dasher
March 3rd, 2011, 14:41
It is perfect logic. But female circumcision was never promoted in the U.S., only the routine circumcision of newborn boys. The reason? Only the boys would grow up to enter the U.S. Army. If the boys were circumcised, they would be more violent on the battlefield. This was an important consideration in any military confrontation with the Soviet Union, where circumcision -- even for religious reasons -- had been outlawed for many years.
Girls were later allowed to join the U.S. military, but by then nearly 90% of the boys entering the Army had been circumcised, and it was a case of "Mission Accomplished."
MelancholyLogic
March 3rd, 2011, 17:22
It is perfect logic. But female circumcision was never promoted in the U.S., only the routine circumcision of newborn boys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QTfrLWfl6k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCLLox_amD8
Blue Cross & Blue Shield covered a form of female genital cutting up until the late 1970's. While these types of procedures may not have been as prevalent in the U.S. as male genital cutting they were definitely being promoted and practiced.
By the way, I agree that the YouTube channel in question is clearly satire. It's interesting to see the reactions of people who are comfortable cutting boys but not not girls even when given the same reasons for doing so.
w.o.f.
March 4th, 2011, 13:12
legalizefemalecirc's approach is to apply all the bullshit arguments used to justify MGM, but to use it on FGM.
Many people completely miss his actual point: That both MGM and FGM are completely wrong.
He just takes a novel approach, at least among intactivists.
But rest assured that legalizefemalecirc is actually an intactivist.
vicousg42
April 24th, 2011, 14:38
this is awesome. it spreads awareness by angering people who don't get the real message. i hope it encourages people to look up resources on genital mutilation and further read into the wrongs done on people world wide, male, female, and everyone in between. nice, hostile, novel approach to intactivism. sarcasm.
on the flip side though, people are obviously very very stupid, and easily mislead. so i do think that this could have a negative effect on influencing people who don't understand sarcasm.
likes
July 14th, 2011, 13:46
I just discovered these today and then saw this thread. I intend to keep the links and post them whenever I see a piece on FGM. There is a huge gender blindness about this, especially in Europe.
redwolfbear
October 14th, 2011, 02:27
what i dont understand is why women have a legal sense of protection 0on the matter where their right to bodily integrity and the law is cocnerend on the matter of female genital mutilation but has the same law treatment bee provided for us men FUCK NO
redwolfbear
October 14th, 2011, 02:33
It is perfect logic. But female circumcision was never promoted in the U.S., only the routine circumcision of newborn boys. The reason? Only the boys would grow up to enter the U.S. Army. If the boys were circumcised, they would be more violent on the battlefield. This was an important consideration in any military confrontation with the Soviet Union, where circumcision -- even for religious reasons -- had been outlawed for many years.
Girls were later allowed to join the U.S. military, but by then nearly 90% of the boys entering the Army had been circumcised, and it was a case of "Mission Accomplished."
JUST WHERE THE FUCK DOES THE GOVERNMENT GET OFF DECIDING THE MATTE FOR ANY OF US FOR OUR FATHERS OUR BROTHERS OR OUR UNCLES FOR THAT MATTER?
god im so pissed right now even if the doctor who circumcisd me is dead righ now i wish i knew where the bastards grave is so i could deface it dig up his rotting corps and rape the hell out of it and then burn it to so much greasy soo t bones and ashes.
okay im done venting im good now that i got that out of me
cresco
November 11th, 2011, 15:59
The great thing is, once a society realize that it is wrong, they are less likely to go backwards and make it legal again. People already know that FGM is immoral so the majority won't legalize it, now I'm awaiting the day where the same will be for the Males.
intact
November 12th, 2011, 10:42
The great thing is, once a society realize that it is wrong, they are less likely to go backwards and make it legal again. People already know that FGM is immoral so the majority won't legalize it, now I'm awaiting the day where the same will be for the Males.
funnily, there are efforts in the west to legalize fgm too. quote ritual nick.
fgm aint as dead as Id like to think.
cresco
November 12th, 2011, 16:42
funnily, there are efforts in the west to legalize fgm too. quote ritual nick.
fgm aint as dead as Id like to think.
yes, there are "efforts", but fortunately, there's no success.
Think of it this way, a country is free and slavery is ok. It's ok to take a human and use them without giving them anything in return and making them your property. It's ok because it's normal. This is what everyone does so everyone is used to it already. Now, if a country realize that it's wrong to do that because everyone should have freedom, it's HIGHLY unlikely that in the future the country will go back to slavery even if there are groups that support it...
same thing for FGM....
Porco.Rosso
November 21st, 2011, 04:48
What an awful man...
w.o.f.
January 17th, 2012, 16:09
What an awful man...
Comprehending sarcasm is not your strong suit, is it.
redwolfbear
January 20th, 2012, 20:40
Ok, come on guys!!! Don't you get it? This guy is an intactivist! If he were to be discussing what we all discuss, he would be dismissed. This guy, however, made presentations that will piss people off. Get their attention. He will cause ripples. Eventually, when enough people have become enraged, they'll need to acknowledge that the reasons he gives are those that they give for having it done to BOYS. Problem is, hipocrytes don't like admitting what they are.
well its about god damn time someone found the guts to take the circumcisers own horseshit and went about slinging it right back in the fuckers face over the matter
those sick minded shit head pro male circumcision types can take their own damn psycho babble bullshit and literally go fuck themselves while choking to death on their own vomit imho
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