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cedicst
June 30th, 2010, 09:01
Hello Everyone,

I’ve been lurking here for a few months, and I’ve posted a few times, but I thought it would be best to take a moment and introduce myself. I used to be a fairly active member on the FRC Chat, but I see that page has ceased to exist for whatever reason.

I’m 24, and by the look of my progress, you would guess I’m just starting out at restoration, although I’m not really, at all. I’ve known about restoration for years, and I’ve been trying to restore, intermittently, since I was 17, but, until recently, I’ve had several roadblocks in my way preventing my restoration efforts.

Growing up in Middle America (Indiana), I never knew about circumcision at all until I was about twelve. Not that I wasn’t circ’d, of course I was, but everyone I saw looked the same as me, so I never gave it a second thought. However, when I discovered porn, of course, everything changed. I’m gay, and I soon realized that many of those guys had something I was, clearly, missing.

Yet, having never seen it in person, and being twelve, I couldn’t understand exactly what that was, so I was confused more than anything. That changed as soon as I started dating. Looking back, for growing up in Indiana, I somehow ended up dating (oddly enough) intact guys. At 17, once I fully started processing what had been done to me, I decided quite quickly that I had to do something about it, so I started attempting manual stretching, but I never got far with it, despite my efforts. At the time, being young and broke it was all I could afford.

Around age 20, after trying stretching on and off and getting no where fast, I decided to buy the DTR and the TLC Tugger. When deciding to do so, I approached my (intact) boyfriend at the time about it, thinking that having his understanding would certainly make things easier.

It certainly would have been, but, well, he wasn’t supportive… at all.

He told me to stop being ridiculous and stupid; he told me that I needed to accept being circumcised, and nothing I ever did would reverse it, and if anything, growing more skin would just make my penis look even worse than it already did, after all, it could only ever be an imitation, it could never be the real thing. So for a time, feeling beaten down, and pretty darn hopeless, I gave up. I still ordered the devices, but I told no one, and kept them safely tucked away from him (I did eventually tell my mother how I felt about everyone, and she and I have since discussed it at some length).

Despite the fact that because of my circumcision I’d never enjoyed oral sex, and certainly never orgasmed during it, or ever been able to climax during sex itself, I just tried to bottle it all up and accept my lot.

While I was hurt and, frankly, humiliated by his words, I tried to abide by his wishes and accept my state. However, a few months later, I simply couldn’t. For the next year or so, I would sneak the DTR and the TLC Tugger in my backpack to university, go into the bathroom when I arrived, apply one device or the other, and go about my courses along with my job at the library with a device under my clothing, no one the wiser.

Of course, doing it this way, I could only use the devices for an hour or two at a time, only during classes or work. Between classes he and I would usually meet up, and he always had a bad habit of randomly trying to feel me up, so I was always scared to wear any type of device when not in class or work, and of course, while I did make some progress (I’m a definite CI-3 now) my progress was hampered by keeping it all a secret.

I eventually lived with keeping it all a secret for almost two years, tugging with the devices when I could, tucking them into my backpack before heading home from work every day (he and I at this point lived together – making everything that much more difficult to conceal). However, one day, he decided to surprise me on campus and come home with me from work (I worked at the university library) so I didn’t have time to run to the bathroom and take off the device (the Tugger that evening) and, of course, as soon as we got in the car, he felt it down there, with the strap going around my waist.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone so angry in my entire life, he proceeded to yell and scream at me for the next few hours, took the Tugger, and the DTR, (after dumping my backpack out on the floor to see if I wasn’t “hiding” anything else), and I never saw either device again; I suspect he took them and burnt them, I honestly don’t know. I searched our small apartment to see where he might have hidden them, but, unfortunately, I never found them.

This caused another “break” in my restoration (obviously) until I left him a few months later (A few years overdue if you ask me!) Over the next year, I would use T-Tape intermittently, but for the longest time I never committed myself to restoration again, I think his cruelty haunted me, and made me fear that I wouldn’t be able to restore anyway, so I never gave it my all. Because of him, restoration is still tied up with a great deal of anger and shame. (All, I must add, directed at him, not my parents for their initial actions – they were doing what they thought best at the time, and I understand that.)

However, in the middle of last year, I (finally) graduated university. Moving away from Indiana, I relocated to the UK for graduate school. Since arriving here in England in late September 2009, I decided to take up restoring again and (despite living off student loans while, unsuccessfully, looking for a part time position) purchased the DTR - again. I plan to purchase the TLC Tugger – again - as well, once I have a position and can afford it. I’ve always found that swapping between methods seems to promote more growth, but for now I’ll simply do what I can.

Thankfully, since moving here, I’ve been free to pursue my efforts in earnest, and I have met a great guy, putting my painful past behind me.

Being in the UK where nearly everyone is intact, it’s become even more important to me to restore, to (in part) not feel out of place with my intact partner. I raised the issue of circumcision and restoration with him once we’d been together for a few weeks. While he knew my circumcision was a touchy subject for me, he didn’t know how deeply I felt about it. Once I told him how I felt about it, and how I wanted to restore, he sat thinking about it for a moment and said, “Well, I like you just the way you are, but as long as you don’t hurt yourself, I’m there for you.” Over half a year later, he’s still there for me, and while we don’t talk about it often, we do talk about it, and he continues to be quietly supportive.

So, that’s me. I’m here to get, and give advice, encouragement, and support as much as I can to everyone else attempting to reclaim what I see as nothing less than a birthright.

Good luck to everyone!

Austin

fics
July 1st, 2010, 02:07
hi there,
very well written story. i hope you will achieve your goal.

i started one month ago with manual - and i think this is working well; not like you. i also bought a dtr and use it twice a day with high tension for one or two hours - rest is all manual.

do you know the other site restoringforeskin dot org? over there is still a chat running. sometimes in the evening people are discussing there.

again, very nice told story
take care

z726
July 1st, 2010, 18:59
Hey, another FRC vet. We still have a few people chatting over at FRC - although both domains expired last year, another restorer purchased frcchat.org and got their "chatroom" back up (really a Java app accessing an IRC channel that I currently run). I was helping to fix it up, but got lazy about it… will try to get my ass in gear and work on it in the next week or so.

I've been restoring for a while myself, with breaks. Still, I know how the underlying motivation never goes away. All it takes is persistence, so keep on tugging.

Dasher
July 1st, 2010, 22:39
Welcome, glad to have you here, and an interesting story.

I think some intact guys in the U.S. like being with cut guys. They have no intention of ever getting circumcised, of course. They just get off -- literally -- by being with a cut guy. So I'm not that surprised to hear that your intact former boyfriend interfered with your restoration. It obviously must have been a threat to what he wanted.

I had an intact boyfriend who told me he had fantasies about being circumcised. It went something like, a doctor would inspect his penis, and retract his foreskin, and tell him that there were so many places for smegma to collect, that he'd have to circumcise him. I was horrified to hear him talk like that, because when I was circumcised at age 14, it was truly a nightmare experience; I almost bled to death and I have literally had nightmares about it ever since. So I told him that getting circumcised was nothing to be fantasizing about. It is a horror show, not something to be getting all goofy over. He said, Silly, I'm never going to have it done, I just like to think about it. It turns me on. It was a funny relationship; he liked that I was cut, and I liked that he was intact. And I told him not to worry about smegma, either.

It's nice that intact guys are so understanding about my circumcision, or even get off on it. But being circumcised hasn't worked out so well for me. Hearing intact guys moan when I play with their foreskin, or having to stop me when I skin it and give oral to prevent coming too soon...well, those are pleasures I can only experience vicariously by being with them. I can't have sexual pleasure like that myself, because I've been circumcised.

cedicst
July 2nd, 2010, 04:33
Stefan,

Thanks for your encouragement! I’m far from new at this, but given the time I’ve been trying, my accomplishments, thus far, are small, but we all have to start somewhere, so there’s no use worrying about it.

I had heard of the other forum, and thank you for reminding me; I’ve gone over there and created an account as well. The more support one can have, the better!

Z,

I had been wondering what had happed to the FRC, it’s too bad it went under, it seemed to have so many resources, and the posters there were always encouraging and insightful, I hope many of its participants are still around!

I agree with you, the motivation, if you’re serious about it, never does go away, thankfully.

Dasher,

I don’t think my ex “got off” on being with a cut guy. I think it was more complicated than that. He told me, several times, that he hated being intact, and he wished he had been cut as a baby, and his desire, still, to be so. (It wouldn’t surprise me if he’s had himself cut now). He had felt embarrassed in locker rooms and such growing up intact, in the southern US where, he claimed, nearly everyone else he saw was cut. I think it made him feel inferior, like he didn’t fit in, so he couldn’t understand, at all, when I told him he was the lucky one with more sensation.

He would always ask how I could know that, how could I quantify it and prove that he had more sensation than I did. At the time, being a CI-1 or so, and having utterly no mobile skin, I never orgasmed during oral sex (still can’t), and I couldn’t masturbate without a LOT of lube, and even then I often would tear the skin, literally wounding myself to feel anything. He would always complain that it would take me forever to orgasm through masturbation, and why I never orgasmed during sex (I still can’t), yet couldn’t understand my desire to restore. (Since starting to restore, I no longer tear, and I have enough mobile skin to masturbate without lube).

While he claimed feeling inferior by being intact, I think part of his refusal to understand my position was his own attempt to inflict his inferiority on me, trying to keep me in a subjugated position. I mean, as I said, when he found my restoration devices, he stole them, which stopped my restoration cold for a time. Afterward, I tried T-Taping, because it was all I could afford at the moment, but now I’ve saved up enough to buy (another) DTR, and hopefully I can buy the TLC again soon as well. I very much like the idea of wearing the DTR during the day and the TLC at night, to get as close to 24/7 tension as I can. I could kick his butt for stealing them; if not for that, I would most likely be done by now! Being a grad student, I have to take what I can get at the moment.

Being with an intact guy, for me, is a blessing and a curse. In my case at least, he’s been nothing but supportive and understanding, and I certainly could never blame him for being spared this injustice, but at the same time I can’t help but be reminded, every day, of what I’ve lost, and it makes me, I have to admit, envious, (an envy, of which he is wholly unaware, but he catches me looking at him like I could kill him at times, and calls me on it, so I know it’s something we need to discuss) but, often, I just try to use that same energy and funnel it into my restoration efforts. I’ve been going steady for months now with my restoration efforts with the DTR, and I’m definitely seeing some progress. More would always be better, but at least it’s something.

Another point I want to touch on, is the whole parental choice thing. Obviously, I, grossly, disagree with my mother’s choice. However, she and I have talked it over, several times, and I know she was trying to do what she thought was in my best interest. How that was cutting me, I don’t know, given that I know my father is intact. But, part of it could be explained by my birth. I was early, very early. Due in June, but born in late April, so my birth was surrounded by complications. I had an incompletely developed heart (it had two holes in it at birth), which required several surgeries, and I also have weaker extremities on my left side, so I walk a little funny. All told, while I’m fine now, my torso is covered in scars from operations which did exactly what surgery is meant to do, keep you alive, and marks on my arms, legs, and even my head from needles to inject drugs when I was a baby. That, all of it, I have no qualms over, the doctors did what they had to do to keep me around. I can live with all of it, but knowing all of that was going on and they still had to bother to butcher my penis, sometimes I have to ask why. Why couldn’t they leave even one part of my body alone? Go though all that to keep me alive and still leave me with the ability for a less than stellar sex life?

No. My penis is mine, and I won’t be stopping until it’s as restored as it can be!

(Sorry for going on a bit!)

-Austin

baybuh870
July 22nd, 2010, 10:39
Austin,

I just came across this post, so I apologize for necro'ing an old thread.

I just wanted to comment and let you know what a tremendous individual I think you are. It's not many people that can go through everything that you did and not be bitter and really angry. The way I read it, you have quite the strength of character and a unique ability to rise above difficult circumstance. That rates extremely high amount of respect with me. Thanks for sharing your story.

In regards to your ex and his views, being gay myself I find rather interesting, the differing opinions in the gay community regarding foreskins. It ranges from: "OMG WTF is THAT?" to "meh, who cares?" to super-"hood freakism". I could go on and on but it's a rather lengthy discussion and more appropriate for a different thread. I'm still on the fence. My first real, up-close-and-personal contact with an intact penis was in 2004 during a short relationship with a Dutch guy while I was in Amsterdam.

I can kind of see where your ex is coming from about shyness and embarrassment though. My first exposure to an intact boy was at summer camp. The showers were open bay type showers, so everyone saw everything. Some boys showed off, while others kept quietly in a corner. One particular boy kept his left hand constantly over his penis, as if it would fall off if he didn't. Long story short, he was intact and exceedingly shy and embarrassed about it. Out of all the several hundred boys (and counsellors) at the camp - and I had seen a large proportion of them naked - he was the only one that was intact. So I can understand where his shyness and embarrassment would come from.

That being said, to interfere with your desire to restore I don't think was fair to you. I read your other post about your current boyfriend, seems like you are beyond lucky to have him around. I'm happy that you were able to find someone so supportive. I would consider myself fortunate to have a boyfriend at this point, let alone someone so understanding and supportive of the desire to restore.

cedicst
August 25th, 2010, 03:30
Hello baybuh870,

I just saw your post, so my apologies for the (long) overdue response.
I suppose in some ways I could be bitter, but I honestly see no reason to be. Yes, I, effectively, wasted three years with someone who didn't support me, or my desires, but it's long past now, and I'm now in a place where I am supported and can openly pursue my restoration, so why be angry? I still find myself running to the bathroom to adjust things if it starts to feel irritated (from time to time when wearing the DTR during the day) which my partner honestly finds funny, since he knows full well what I'm doing, and couldn't care less if I did it right in front of him, but that feels slightly odd to me. Maybe it's just the American in me, who knows.

In my experience, the "differing opinions in the gay community regarding foreskins" is only an issue in America and, to a lesser extent, Canada, where circumcision levels are still (fairly) high. (Although progressively going down - thank goodness!) Being in the UK, and Europe in general, my impression is it's largely a non-issue, since circumcision virtually does not exist outside religious or true medical reasons.

I couldn't agree with you more, as I'm sure anyone with a supportive partner would tell you, it makes all the difference in the world. At this point, he knows my restoration schedule as well as I do! I was able to order another TLC almost a month or so ago, and now I wear the TLC while I sleep, and then take it off as soon as I get out of bed in the morning and put on DTR for the day, until we get ready for bed again. He's commented several times that the TLC over the shoulder strap looks like a "little soldier uniform" to him, which somehow makes it all a little easier to bear when I get annoyed with it all. It also helps that I have someone else who can notice changes. It tells me I'm not imagining things when I think I've made some type of slight gain, which, obviously, is very encouraging!