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Minuteman
January 17th, 2011, 10:56
In September 2010, the 'Medical Journal of Australia' (MJA) published an editorial entitled "The case for boosting infant male circumcision in the face of rising heterosexual transmission of HIV" (Link: mja.com.au/public/issues/193_06_200910/coo10571_fm.html).

The e-version of this editorial is behind a paywall on the MJA site, but you can get the jist of the editorial - and how it was used in the mainstream media - from this ABC article: abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2010/s3016399.htm (the smirking female journalist adds a particularly sick resonance to the story).

According to a recent article in the professional publication 'Australian Doctor' (australiandoctor.com.au) entitled "Circumcision row erupts" - also behind a paywall but reproduced in full on The Intactivism Pages website: circumstitions.com/news/news40.html#racp4 - the MJA editorial resulted in a 'barrage of angry letters' from doctors (eight letters were actually published).

The 'Australian Doctor' article (also by a female journalist) only directly quotes the circumcision advocates from the original MJA editorial, and lets the advocates have the last word:

"Parents have a duty to help prevent renal damage, physical, inflammatory and hygiene problems, STIs and cancers in their sons and their sons' future sexual partners. They can do this by arranging for their sons to be circumcised,"

An alarmist editorial, which likely would never have passed the peer-review process to which research articles are subjected, was converted into an easily digestible press-release and picked up by mainstream media outlets to be fed directly to parents, by-passing the mainstray of Australian medical opinion.

Now is the time to talk to your GP about your resentment at having being circumcised. Doctor's need to understand the damage of circumcision to give them the resolve to resist demands from parents, hold the editors of medical publications accountable to the high standards expected of practitioners in the medical profession, and to induce them to write letters and articles rejecting the practice of circumcision.

If enough men speak up to their doctors, the attention focused on this issue in Australia could finally induce researchers to conduct quality research into the long-term physical and psychological harm of circumcision and publish in the peer-reviewed literature which forms the basis of medical decision-making.

Dasher
January 17th, 2011, 12:35
Our pro-circumcision troll from Australia must be asleep at the switch. How could he let this one slip by without beating his chest, and trying to push our buttons about it? He must really be slipping.

Or maybe he has seen the light about amputating part of a defenseless baby's body on the grounds of getting all those great "potential benefits" like they're supposed to get in Uganda (but they don't get the money from their lost foreskins; the Circumcision Cartel gets that).

Or maybe the troll is feeling guilty for ordering the mutilation of his son(s). The blood on your hands will eventually getcha, troll.

Joseph
January 17th, 2011, 19:59
"Parents have a duty to help prevent renal damage, physical, inflammatory and hygiene problems, STIs and cancers in their sons and their sons' future sexual partners. They can do this by arranging for their sons to be circumcised."

Or by teaching them good hygiene and giving them sound advice on sexual practices...

The so-called "benefits" of circumcision can be achieved WITHOUT mutilating your children and violating their basic human rights...

"In response to the outcry, Professor Cooper and his colleagues stood by their initial article, warning an HIV epidemic was likely in Australia unless male circumcision rates increased."

Though it may be effective on the general public to a certain degree, repeating something ad nauseam does not make it any more true.

Luckily, we have reality on our side, which shows that high circumcision rates did not prevent an HIV epidemic in America, and HIV transmission rates in various countries where circumcision rates are low aren't suffering HIV epidemics. At least not HIV rates that are as high as America, where the majority of the male population is already circumcised...

It sounds like so-called "researchers" are desparately grasping at strings and straws...

PS - Let sleeping dogs lie...

peterpink
January 17th, 2011, 21:10
The 8 letters in response to the article are here: http://www.circinfo.org/MJA_Cooper_letters.html

AnonS5
January 17th, 2011, 21:19
If only the world knew that circumcision makes the penis more unhygenic and more prone to STIs. Look at the U.S.

Because without the foreskin, dirt and bacteria easily get in, the immunlogical fucntion is gone, and there is no antibacterial smegma or culture of bacteria there like there is in the vagina.

Minuteman
January 18th, 2011, 00:12
The 8 letters in response to the article are here: circinfo.org/MJA_Cooper_letters.html

Thanks Peter, for that link.

Far from being a "barrage of angry letters" (as editorialised by that female journalist from 'Australian Doctor'), most are carefully referenced, factual replies which are specific to the incidence and epidemiology of HIV/AIDS in Australia.

Indeed, a couple are almost sickeningly cringing in their need to pay due deference to those three flawed African trials, continuing to maintain that circumcision for HIV/AIDS prevention may remain a valid option "for some men" and making the ethically void suggestion that routine infant circumcision is a valid public health policy "in some areas of high prevalence".

I know that Morris et al., the authors of the original MJA editorial, are a collection of odd-balls and fetishists (have a look at Morris' site cir cinf o.ne t, if you can be bothered), but what is the MJA playing at with this editorial? Suggestions?

Aussiebloke
January 18th, 2011, 06:17
gay yanks

I don't know about the forum, but 1000 TLC clients responding to an online survey self-reported as gay 33% of the time.

-Ron

Joseph
January 18th, 2011, 06:35
Nope. I, unlike people like Joseph, don't sit on this website 24/7. I merely have a quick look every now and again for some light entertainment on the latest bitching and complaining.:p

Yeah. SURE you do.

I'm sure you don't spend time lurking anonymously on the progress galleries gawking at men's penises.

And maybe a little more...

;)

It looks like there are less than 1300 active members of this website. The majority of which are gay yanks, so I would assume that there are very few Aussies on here.

(see above)

Good luck though. I'll keep my ear out next time I go to the doctors, and I'll be sure to let them all know how happy I am that I am circumcised.:D

You tell him. I'm sure he'll give you the reassurance that you need...

:rolleyes: