Packer: Skin won't stay rolled up

[GodRod]

I've been using the TLC packer 8 for about a month now. It's very comfortable and suited to my lifestyle. I was wondering though.. how much skin should I ideally be rolling onto the packer?? For whatever reason my skin doesn't seem to want to stay where it is when I roll it up. I can usually roll my skin up to the thinnest point on the packer. It usually rolls back down to covering about %50 of the packer height.

In Packer 1: You can see my skin in the packer as I've been wearing it all day.
In Packer 2: You can see a sort of bird's-eye view, and notice how much open space there is. ( This may be due to my lack of excess skin in the first place )
In Packer 3: You can see me rolling my skin up without the your-skin-cone applied. My shaft is practically buried at this point.

Thoughts? Suggestions? When does skin start sticking? I had this same problem with the cat II q. Is it just a matter of having enough skin?

Thanks,
-James

[GodRod]

Would this be better posted somewhere else? Don't mean to bump my own post just want opinions.

[pi314]

My tlc tugger does the same thing, I can push my skin almost over the tip of the tugger, but as soon as I put on the cone, it goes back. The way I figure, its just a patience issue, I just don't have enough patience to wait though. In several months, you'll see a difference in how much skin continues to fit in the cone, but it does take time.

[greg_b]

I have not used the TLC Packer, but my strategy has been to minimze the skin trapped under the tape I use, if that helps. My reasoning is that the more skin I trap (or tape in my case), the further down I am moving the point where I am applying tension. Since my goal is to grow foreskin, I want to keep the point of tension as close to the leading edge of my foreskin remant as practical.

Works for me, YMMV.

Regards

[Unknown]

I use the DTR no-holed gripper with the TLC packer.

Seem to work for me. Skin stays where it is.

[admin]

There's a Packer demo at the TLC Tugger Instructions web page http://TLCTugger.com/downloads.htm. Not sure if it addresses your issue.

I endorse a Packer with cylindrical portion no longer than the distance past the tip you can force skin while erect. I advise rolling skin as high up toward the pointy end of the device as you comfortably can.

After applying the retaining cone, you can flare the base of the cone to let some skin slip out without changing the gripping point. That way even the skin between the cones is under some tension.

Some lotion applied sparingly behind the corona will let the skin slip up onto the Packer without binding.

Always apply a freshly washed device to freshly washed skin.

-Ron

[soft-cover recovery agent]

My suggestion would be to buy a longer length packer and use it either by itself, or in combination with the other packer. I have successfully used this method for the last two or (could it possibly even be three or four years of consistent restoration now?!?!) and I am still going strong with it.

It works for evening out the dorsal aspect for me. I was gomcoed apparently, and I have had this stupid biscuit cutter affect on the dorsal aspect. This is now evening out, as well as apparently having more skin on the left side of the skin tub (bloody butchers) ahem... Anyway, I have not used the strap at all since using the packer only method. This process is frustrating, because I would like to just be able to get the blasted tube evened out (I have also been dealing with a nasty adhesion on the dorsal aspect of the sulcus and this has taken forever to get figured out and still seems to be in the process of getting removed due to tension-yes, this can be painful and sometimes has had to be done in moderation) and move on to a fully covered flaccid penis. My goal is a ci10+ (meaning over-hang when erect), and with the packer only method I have gone from ci3.5 to ci5 pushing full flaccid coverage.

I think in my case, the packer situation has been a good choice. It has allowed the restoration to go on without being highly noticeable, and for the progress on the adhesion and the inner and outer skin formation to go on well. It has also been pretty cost effective. I think that I may opt to go for a TLC-X at some point, but I am not sure yet. What I have found with my chosen restoration method, is that it can have some surprises (I guess they all do). One of them has been, that just when I think it is time for a new device or another packer, lo, and behold a new round of growth. I think an advantage of doing the packer method, is it allows the skin and fascia muscle, as well as the nerves to have the stimulus they need to grow well in tandem. Blood vessels also seem to be growing well throughout the "new" skin and muscle tissue. The nerves also seem to continue to find a way across the disappearing scar tissue. The disappearing scar tissue is being pulled apart by the tension, and is being rooted out and replaced with new healthy tissue. Sometimes, the spots where the stitches were put in, seem to be more tender than the rest of the skin, but these can also be places where growth occurs.

On the whole I am pleased with this method because it gives consistent good results for both inner and outer foreskin development. Also, because it gives the whole organ (the penis) time to re-connect the dots that have become disconnected due to the invasive surgery. If you are wondering whether this method works, I can vouch for it as it does for me.

Happy restoring, and KOT.

[Apostle]

This, is my same problem! Also it feels like its pulls more from the base than from the top skin, im not sure if manually tugging would be a better idea for us or what. maybe someone else has a better suggestion.

P.S. you said youve been restoring for 8 months, have you noticed any results? Which restoration device did you mostly use?

[His_image]

I've not used the device to which you are refering, but part of my homemade device might prove useful.

Find some first aid tape. (Perhaps at your local drug store.) I recommend Nexcare (trademark). Tear off 1/2 - 1". Carefully tape only the smallest portion to where your foresking will be placed. Turning the sticky side out, connect the tape to the afore mentioned tape fragment. Wrap the tape around the circumference of the device until it sticks onto itself.

[soft-cover recovery agent]

"Yes I have seen similar results in my scar tissue as you describe. I used these packers also I liked them quite a bit, I do not think they are safe to wear with briefs however.

Let me explain what happened. This happened to me twice.

I was wearing my Packer and decided to check on the skin something was not feeling right. I pulled the older style white cone off and there was a ugly black bruise on the dorsal surface of my skin. In each instance I was wearing briefs and my penis although comfortable was bent downwards or to the side in the briefs.

This I believe in turn caused the edge of the packer to put undue force on the skin from inside out if you can follow what I am saying. if not while wearing the packer gently bend your penis down where the bottom of the packer enfolded in skin is you should see it trying to protrude up from the skin."


The restoration process has brought several things to my attention, and stories like yours reinforce some of the issues in my mind. The one that your story brings to mind is the point about men's dress in the "west". Notice, that since men usually wear trousers in the "west" that issues such as correcting circumcision can be made unduly dangerous, and in fact highlight male accommodation needs in clothing. Were restorers to wear kilts and other similar articles of apparel, we would not have the issues of boxers or briefs causing injury to our bodies.

Unless we are doing things like riding horses or some such, why do we continue to confine our bodies in uncomfortable things like trousers? I'm not saying put on a lady's dress or anything of the sort. But why not wear clothing that is anatomically correct for the male form? If one thinks about it, trousers are much more revealing of men and are less modest than something like a kilt. Also, consider the advantage of ventilation for yourself with a garment like a kilt.

Think about it. It represents safer restoration practices and safer general health practices for men. Trying to conceive? Don't wear trousers, let that to your female partner. Let her wear the pants in the relationship, go for the comfort that befits your being.

[Slim313]

Hey, how's the progress using the tlc packers?