TLC-X Pusher

[thommy43]

Hey!
I have been using the TLC-X for a little while now and it's great. One problem I'm having is that the edge of the plunger piece pushes more on the top side of the glans and gets uncomfortable after a while. It does this no matter how much I push it in. Any tips on how to fix this?

[admin]

Hey!
I have been using the TLC-X for a little while now and it's great. One problem I'm having is that the edge of the plunger piece pushes more on the top side of the glans and gets uncomfortable after a while. It does this no matter how much I push it in. Any tips on how to fix this?

Hi,
There are dozens of TLC-X users. Maybe some of them will see your note.

My main thought is keep the tension light. I apply the device rolling a comfortable amount of skin onto the tugger, then extend the rod less than 1/2". If you have slack consider a longer Pusher or applying the device with the Pusher pre-extended, but not beyond where you can comfortably apply the Tugger.

Cheers,
-Ron

[chesafreakhung]

I also have the same problem. I got a tlc x a month ago and just started using it hardcore. Sometimes it can be uncomfortable, I'm not particularly a fan on the groves of the plunger but I thin that overall the device will yield some amazing results.

Oh and just a ps to ron thanks for helping me with ur amazing process. I curently model and hope to do some nudes when I'm done. I'm really hoping to get a real natural looking foreskin.

[Sampson]

thommy, i've been restoring for just over a month with the TLC-X and have been having the exact same problem. i wouldnt say its due to the grooves - its more due to the fact that the circular shape of the plunger does not totally cover my glans...leaving a bit of extra glans to get pinched. if it isnt this then its my glans getting folded back on itself - causing a painful fold just behind the meatus.

this brings up an interesting idea for ron (and maybe you've already tested this) but maybe the pusher could be contoured on the inside similarly to a glans shape - instead of just a semi-sphere. its just a thought, and it is probably worth noting that everyone's glans is shaped differently.

but thommy, ive found that when rolling my skin up over the pusher that the pinching can be avoiding by NOT yanking the skin up as much as possible (in other words, leave some slack) and do the rest with rolling the skin. in other words less yanking, more rolling, of the skin towards the metal piece...although some yanking is necessary to get it there...just dont yank ALL the skin as far up as it can go. ive found this more or less solves the problem of pinching.

[Randel]

hEY GUYS,
I recommend the TLC-X. As a third month tugger, I never recommended actually to use the push the glans down yet. As Rons video shows he is fully advanced to demonstrate the push down method. I recently viewed the rubberband method with the TLC-X. I would suggest that first. It appears that you guys are tugging/pushing to hard. The harder you tug the less circulation you will have with your stretched foreskin. I recently read a website from a member. It stated that the new skin growth grows faster when you take a break from tugging( even 24 hours) to allow your foreskin to recieve full circulation( creates growth of new skin cells faster)then go back to tugging. I was trying to tug 24/7. Taking a break to allow some swollen, painful tisssue to recieve full circulation actually felt good. After one day I went back to tugging, thiner skin,no pain no loss in amount of regained foreskin. I recommend it.
Your friend,
Randel
Knowledge thru communication.

[Sampson]

I should clarify that I am using the rubber band method. I have had the pinching effect with both manual pushing method and the rubber band method.

The pinching really has to do with the amount of slack skin you leave when you pull your skin up onto the pusher. Basically, if you pull every last bit of skin up onto the pusher – the plunger will press VERY hard onto the glans and the glans will flatten & spread out wider than the plunger. That causes the plunger to pinch the outer portion.

The pinching actually doesn’t really have anything to do with tension.

Randel, that is interesting what you’re saying about resting. I made an earlier post wondering about rest time for restoring. I tug about 10 hours a day, and I’m on my 36th day or so (just over a month). Do you think I should take a day off here and there? How often?

[admin]

Do you think I should take a day off here and there?I don't think anyone knows. I got my results tugging as close to 24/7 as possible without being a fanatic, so it was maybe 80% of all hours. I took some weekend days off, some nights off, some afternoons off. Use the Your-Skin Cone (or o-rings or cross tape) to keep your glans covered when not tugging.

-Ron

[Randel]

Dear Sampson,
If you are tugging 10 hours a day. Then giving rest time to your swollen foreskin 14 hours I personally feel your doing just right. Especially if you are not sore after 14 hours of rest(non-tugging).
Your Friend,
Randel

[Randel]

Dear Ron,
' Fanatic ' depends on the definition of what fanatic is. Eighty percent plus + in my opinion might just be defined as a fanatic. Just my opinion. Lol.
Love ya,
Randel

[1Taoist]

While I like using it, I have had the same prob. If we can get Ron to make the base a wider circumference like the TLC, I think that would solve the problem.

[admin]

make the base a wider circumference like the TLCThanks for that feedback. There WILL be a Pusher that is conical and wider (but don't hold your breath). I'm concerned that it will create a pinch point and I'm sorting out my options.

-Ron

[NaturalMikeSoon]

Ron,

Any progress on a pusher that doesn't have the textured surface? Perhaps it's because I'm covered all the time now, but my glans just doesn't tolerate the texture comfortably.

I hardly use the TLC-X because of that. It's a shame too, because I think the device produces results and I'd like to use it more!

Natural Mike

[admin]

a pusher that doesn't have the textured surface?

Only the PX-0 has the textured surface. See the others at:
http://TLCTugger.com/prodTLC-X.htm

-Ron

[Sampson]

Thats interesting mike. One drawback about these devices - while they do give results - they cant leave us covered with skin all the time. Maybe down the road one of us will find a way to make a device that is tapeless while allowing us to be covered by our own skin.

During my first 2 months I have worn my your skin cone every night to regain sensitivity but sometimes i wonder if this is pointless. I am also spending the rest of my time jamming a plastic device on the glans-while i will get results this overall practice will not lead to sensitivity anytime soon. Due to that I am waiting until well after I've reached full coverage to go for sensitivity regaining...and if I want to tug anymore after that I can always use tape or use a Tugger and (somehow?) try to tug while leaving space between the pusher and my glans.

Sampson

[1Taoist]

I agree with Mike. In response to the idea of a device that allows coverage by our own skin...the PUD does that. If you have enough slack and tape it to the PUD not too far on, maybe mid-way into the neck -you can then pull on it a little and you'll feel your glans "pop off" the device and slip back up a bit into just skin. I wear this several hours a day, in addition to Ron'd devices, and I can say my gland comes out shinier from the PUD, probably for the reason you stated.

[Sampson]

Yea, I know the there are devices involving tape that allow one to be covered with their own skin - i was actually thinking of tapeless devices although maybe I should just bite the bullet and use tape-involving ones.

[RickyM]

Hi Sampson,


During my first 2 months I have worn my your skin cone every night to regain sensitivity but sometimes i wonder if this is pointless.

I have used the Cone every night and have found the increase in sensitivity because of this the biggest gain of all in tugging. I do like the "new" look of my dick (I'm now a CI-7 or 8 flaccid), but the increase in sensitivity is the most important. :D :D :D When you've got it (I assume you haven't yet) you'll know what I mean. I assume you haven't now because you've written somewhere else "My current girlfriend . . . . suggested that it may be harder to get me to ejaculate because I am cut". My guess is that your glans is caloused from exposure, reducing your sensitivity. I remember, before restoring, sometimes reaching orgasm was a marathon effort. Really good for developing my or my wife's bicepts, eh? Sex with my wife couldn't have been all that good for her -- well the part getting me to cum anyway.

Incidentally, I can't wear any gear to bed apart from the Cone. I'm a very active sleeper and can finish up on the floor brawling with some guy in my dreams. Dunno what would happen to a device that was attached if I fell the wrong way. Good thing I sleep with my back to my wife, eh? She now insists that I put the bedside lamp on the floor before I go to sleep -- causing too much damage to the walls otherwise. Funny, I'm a real passive guy at heart.

[Sampson]

Ricky,

I only say it could be pointless (even though I still do it) is because I'm afraid I'm reversing my gains in sensitivity by having the TLC-X pusher jammed down on my glans all day.

I'll still wear i retainer to bed though. I bet it will be key when I am more restored and dont need to tug as much. Maybe at that point I will switch to a device that uses the skin to cover the glans.

Sampson

[wildfox]

I am getting ready to buy a TLC-X in a couple weeks.

I have a large glans, and don't like it when the edge of my pusher (1 1/8" diameter) "cuts into" my glans. My tugger (1 3/8") diameter is a better size.

Looks like right now only 1 3/16" diameter is available for TLC-X. I might have to mold a spacer from putty and put in between.

How would you TLC-X experienced recommend going about deciding the best TLC-X stretch pusher length? Is there a good formula to use based on available slack? I have a packer 16 and I think I need at least the equivalent of that which I am guessing is close to PX-14, is that right?

Finally, since I have an intact frenulum, do I need a groove?

[RickyM]

G'day Sampson,

. . . .because I'm afraid I'm reversing my gains in sensitivity by having the TLC-X pusher jammed down on my glans all day.

Can you explain that a bit further, please? Do you know this or are you assuming that is what might happen?

I only use the TLC-X (bi-directional and most of the time) or TLC Packer (when I go to the gym or want it a bit more hidden for whatever reason because it's totally inside my underpants and does not bulge much) -- both of which push down on the glans fairly hard. Should I swap to something else that doesn't do that for increased sensitivity?

Cheers,

Rick

[RickyM]

Hi wildfox,

How would you TLC-X experienced recommend going about deciding the best TLC-X stretch pusher length?

I'd ask Ron. He understands it all best. He'll want to know the diameter of your glans when erect, though. Personally, I'd go for the largest to give you room to expand -- you already seem to have a fair bit of foreskin.

Finally, since I have an intact frenulum, do I need a groove?

I think they all come with a grove now. Again, email Ron.

Cheers,

Rick

[admin]

Hi,
I am working on some wider TLC-X Pushers for the comfort of you wide guys, but don't hold your breath; this takes a long time since I have to keep doing my 9-5 and attending family functions and sleeping and stuff.

The Pusher has a frenulum groove. The TLC-X tugger body does not. I'd need some kind of photo evidence to justify any mod to the tugger body.

-Ron

[Sampson]

Rick,

I dont know, just guessing. I just feel like its pointless to go for sensitivity by wearing the cone all night when the glans has a plastic piece pushing on it all day long. Reversing wasnt the right word...I think hindering is better. Now, when I am fully restored I can totally focus on sensitivity...for now it seems a bit pointless considering the device im using.

[RickyM]

Sampson,

All I can do is share my experience, which might or might not hold with you -- our dicks might give very different responses. I use the TLC-X (mostly) or Packer six out of seven days for 12-14 hours apiece and the Cone at all other times. My sensitivity has changed enormously.

Take the shower for example. Before restoring I could expose my glans to the falling water and it had little or no effect. A couple on months ago, sensitivity had increased that, if I wasn't careful, water falling on my exposed glans would bring me on and I'd get an erection. Now, falling water actually hurts -- it's too damn sensitive to that stimulus at least. So, sorry, I think you're choosing a retrograde step. Increase in sensitivity is most important and I LIKE IT:D :D :D :D :D :D :D. For me, it ain't pointless. But, then again, maybe all you're intersted in is the restored look -- just joshing.

[Andy13]

I have to say, I agree with Ricky. I was using the Tugger for about 10 hours a day 5 days a week for 11 months. I then added the packer 16 in the evening and on the weekends. I noticed my glans would get soft during the day and then dry out at night. After a few weeks, I noticed that when I went to bed, my glans was very sensitive and rubbing in my shorts bothered me. I have been staying covered for a couple months now and even with the tugger and packer riding on my glans, I am way more sensitive. If you think about it, the sensitivity isn't in the tip of the glans anyway, it comes back to the corona and frenulum (or frenulum remnant in my case). I say keep it covered and you won't regret it!

That's my opinion...I could be wrong!

Andy

[Sampson]

Allright,

Andy and RickyM, I concede. I will continue to wear a retainer at night because of you're powerful persuasion.

But, you do understand my line of thinking, right? That if I retain for 8 hours at night but then have a device pushing at my glans for 12 hours in the day, then I may not make any sensitivity gains.

I must say though, that after wearing the retainer for 2 months at night that I did feel a bit more sensitive when I didnt have it on. It wasnt a night & day thing, but it felt a bit unusual in the shower and beneath my clothes, again, nothing all that ground-breaking but still. I think this could be because the plunger was stationary and not brushing or rubbing on my glans, like most clothes or water would. Therefore, my brain is being retrained, but as for legitimate sensitivity gains...i'll just wait until i'm covered to see.

Ron, do you have any insight into our conversation?

Sampson

[admin]

Sensitivity is a powerful motivator to keep tugging, so what ever it takes to move forward.

You don't "need" to have anything pushing against the glans. When you tug with straps the device doesn't press on the glans.

I got my results tugging as close to 24/7 as I could manage. I never really used packing methods until 3.5 - 4 years into it.

-Ron

[HopeThisWorks]

I am also unable to wear the TLC-X for any significant length of time (at most 1 hour at the plunger setting I'd prefer; at most 3 hours with the pusher completely recessed into the tugging body). The pusher does not cover the whole glans, and the edges of the pusher create sharp, painful impressions on the glans. The trailing edge of the tugging body also creates sharp, painful impressions where it meets the inner skin. (See attached image, with red circles indicating pressure points.)

That said, I have no problem with the TLC tugger, and I can comfortably wear the TLC Packer8 (and probably Packer16) all day without any sort of discomfort. Note in particular that the packer8 applies more pressure on the glans than the TLC-X with the pusher recessed.

This tells me that the TLC-X can be easily modified without sigificantly changing the design. My comparisons with the TLC tugger and packers suggests the following modifications:
1) change the tugging body to include the thin trailing edges of the TLC tugger (or make them rounded), and
2) widen the pusher and/or smooth out its offending edges.

As someone mentioned earlier, this is disappointing, mostly because the TLC-X seems to otherwise work very well. I think the suggested modifications ("TLC-X 2.0"?) would eliminate the pain for most of those reporting it. In the meantime, I can't wear it.

What do others think?

[Sampson]

I like the graphic. I've had some of the same problems as well. Another member recently switched to a pusher with one of the longer bodies (px-20) and says there is less pinching due to that. I have thought that the wider plunger piece (ron makes one i think) would cover the glans more effectively and eliminate pinching.

Ive found that trying to make the glans head smaller by pushing all the blood back down into the shaft (by using the pusher) before applying the device helps. The pinching can be avoided with clever application.

sampson

[TLCTugger]

(See attached image, with red circles indicating pressure points.)
I very much appreciate your effort to describe and illustrate your situation.

Despite all the options, the TLC-X is still sort of one-size-fits-all. The less slack you have, the closer to average size you need to be to use it with maximum comfort.

The gap between the 1 1/4" TLC-X tugger body and the 1 3/16" pusher is not an accident. I didn't want guys getting skin pinched between the pieces if they released inner tension without removing the device. In retrospect, that seems a very unlikely use of the device.

You're right the tugger body could be easily trimmed to match the diameter of the Pusher. Please don't try this, however, unless you talk to me at TLCTugger@Juno.com first.

I'm presently testing a PX-L and PX-XL Pusher which will give a much wider cup for the glans. But don't hold your breath; my freakin' to-do list is ridiculous. I have yet to update the web site for the song contest winners and that was settled in September. I've got demo videos banned on XTube that I have to re-cut without the TLC logos. I did a speach for the Mensa convention in October but I still haven't edited the video for YouTube. It's great to be busy but I hate making people wait for the help they need.

Thanks for your patience.

[1Taoist]

Re: hopethisworks' comments...that is what I suggested in the thread "wider conical shaped stretchers and packers". Take the brilliance of the TLC conical to all the others.

[HopeThisWorks]

I'll hold on to the TLC-X. I think simply rounding out those sharp edges would fix my problems. At some point (in the distant future, when my todo list doesn't look like Ron's :-) I may experiment with that.

(By the way, thanks Ron for all the time and energy you've put into these things.)

[torgheddu]

The gap between the 1 1/4" TLC-X tugger body and the 1 3/16" pusher is not an accident. I didn't want guys getting skin pinched between the pieces if they released inner tension without removing the device. In retrospect, that seems a very unlikely use of the device.

To say nothing of your to-do list, I hope everyone appreciates (in both senses of the word) that you're dealing with some actually tricky design decisions-- not only is every bit of the design a trade-off (a snugger fit here means a possible pinch there or a sort of crimp around there), but also a great design does nobody any good if nine times out of ten it comes out of the mold with uneven edges and has to be tossed out.

Speaking of design and molds, I'm amazed by how Ron has been fabricating those thin thin fine edges on the outside edge of the TLC Tugger. And if it takes him a while to get that going for the TLCX, I'll gladly wait for it and buy it. In the meantime, the existing alternatives are still great-- hell, I've gotten massive sensitivity gains just from wearing the YourSkin cone, 24/7. (With a dab of Eucerin; and washing only with Cetaphil instead of usual soap, etc.)

Anyway, if the TLCX's pusher is a bit pushy, at least it's silicone, unlike the hard plastic pusher on the CatIIq. Yes, I know some people swear by the Cat, but I'm just shaped wrong for it. Woe is me and my penis.

[JosephK]

I would agree with what others have said, the TLC-X gives far superior results with the exception of comfort. I too have had issue with the TLC-X plunger being much too small and digging into the glans. A plunger the same diameter as the original TLC would solve this issue IMHO.

Thanks to Ron for being open to suggestions and for seeking out ways to improve his product.

Joseph

[admin]

IA plunger the same diameter as the original TLC would solve this {comfort} issue
I can now make wider Pushers. I've sent a couple out. I'll try and get some feedback about them before adding them to the web site, but we're close to offering some help for wide guys.

-Ron

[cericwin]

I too am looking forward to a larger diameter pusher. I love my TLC-X and the additional inner skin tension, I'm making wonderful progress, but it will be more comfortable and I can use the device for longer periods if I have a larger pusher.

I have waited for awhile, as I also want a pusher that is a longer length, also, to accomodate my additional growth, but am not sure exactly what size I want yet (at my current rate of growth, I don't want to outgrow it right away).

Ron, you and your TLC Tugger have given me a new hope and a new purpose in life.

My deepest thanks,

CERICWIN

[1Taoist]

I have received the new wider pusher and I'm pleased to report its a huge improvement.

I have not been using the X for all the reasons stated by others. The pusher was just too narrow to be stable, and the groove was causing indentation. I've been restoring mainly with the classic, interspersed with a custom stretch tugger Ron made that is quite wide and conical. Interestingly, the wider one causes the skin to balloon out rather than simply stretch out, causing multi-directional expansion of skin. This phenom I've noticed seems to promote sensitivity development in the skin, perhaps because it is expanding in 6 directions.

To address the glans sensitivity issue for others, per my experience with the PUD, the metal may be the key to promoting the shine and moisture of an intact penis glans, perhaps the silicone is causing a dry out to some extent. I have taken this to indicate perhaps the TLC line should move toward a light-metal construction. This also would facilitate separation of the glans from the device, assisting skin expansion.

So far, I'm using the X comfortably with the new wide pusher. The edge is like the classic TLC. Perhaps, Ron, all that needs to be metal is the pusher itself? Please consider this. I will take it to a machinist and try to duplicate it.

Cont.

[1Taoist]

personally, I tug with dual straps, one on each leg connected at the tugger. I know a lot of you think this can't work but I'm here to say it does. And I have a larger than average gun. The configuration I use is triangular, which is geometrically potent. I have no problems with it, feel much better that way than with it stuck to one leg (which promotes pinching and squashing of your dick). As far as going with the X, I set it up now with the set screw at the end, turned so the screw is going through the end of the tugger handle, then connect the two straps just ABOVE the set screw at the flaring part of the handle. This keeps the set screw on if it comes loose cuz it can't slide off the end when the screw goes through the handle bar at the end of the tugger, and the two straps keep it locked in place from above. Since the tugger is held in the center, the straps hook to the upper sides of the tugger handle instead of the end. The point of all this is that now with bi-directional inner stretching, the dual strap triangulation adds more dimensions. The more dimensions, the better the effect. I find all this highly functional.

Since tugging in general is somewhat troublesome, I urge people to experiment with my method. I think you will find it more stable, more workable, and more possible than you think.

[1Taoist]

the new wider pusher works. Make sure you get the inner spring, though. The rubber bands are good, but the spring is better. I use the spring and the shorter rod during the day, and at night the longer rod and rubber bands.

I'm getting excellent results. I been at this since February and am very pleased. I tug almost round the clock, except when I'm pleasing my wife with the fruits of this pleasure program. Once again, though, if the pusher were metal, I think that would kick the shining glans into gear. Just my experience.

[wildfox]

I definitely like the wider pusher for the TLC-X. Much more comfortable and it does not dig into my glans.

WF

[wildfox]

the new wider pusher works. Make sure you get the inner spring, though. The rubber bands are good, but the spring is better. I use the spring and the shorter rod during the day, and at night the longer rod and rubber bands.

I'm getting excellent results. I been at this since February and am very pleased. I tug almost round the clock, except when I'm pleasing my wife with the fruits of this pleasure program. Once again, though, if the pusher were metal, I think that would kick the shining glans into gear. Just my experience.

I don't think my TLC-X came with a spring. I need to learn more about that.

WF

[admin]

The rubber bands are good, but the spring is better.Some have said the opposite. I'm delighted to offer both because I know most restorers love to experiment.

For those who ordered before the springs were added to the kit (and the price went up a little) I have them listed separately at the web site. If that's all you need, I'll refund your s&h if you remind me that you were an early adopter. I appreciate the vote of confidence.

-Ron

[RobertW]

This thread meandered among several interesting sub-topics, but the sub-topic I want to respond to is the one about the TLC-X's standard pusher causing discomfort for some of us with either a wider glans, a larger corona, or perhaps a squishier glans. Whatever the reason, some of us end up with our corona folding forward over the edges of the standard pusher piece and our glans becomes sore and creased after a couple of hours. Relief is at hand.

As soon as I noticed Ron had introduced his new Wide pusher on the web site (PX-W (http://tlctugger.com/prodTLC-X.htm)), I ordered it and it arrived quickly on July 25th. The difference in comfort has been more than I hoped for. I am comfortable in my TLC-X Wide the entire duration between pee breaks and I have slept all night with it on. I think two and a half weeks of use is a valid test period that gets past the "honeymoon period" any new device or component enjoys, so I'm going to recommend it as a potential solution to the problems mentioned earlier.

I've made one change to my installation routine as compared to before I had the Wide pusher. I now spread a small amount of Eucerin Lotion or Creme (still deciding which is best for me) on the outer edge of the Wide pusher -- the section that comes in direct contact with my inner foreskin. Keep in mind the Wide pusher is more rounded than the standard pusher, so it actually has depth, and therefore has a broad surface to be lubed rather than just an edge. It looks like a more delicate version of a packer with a threaded fitting on top. Anyway, when it's lubed it functions like a well-oiled piston traveling down a cylinder on the compression stroke of an internal combustion engine. (Except it feels better and generates less heat ;).)

The PX-W measures 1.5" across so compare that to your own measurements, or find a measuring spoon in your kitchen 1.5" across and do a test fit.

In my opinion, since the PX-W has more of a curve and more depth, it will require more slack skin to install it than a TLC-X with standard PX-2 pusher. Said another way, the standard pusher does not extend past the inner cone much more than about 1/32" to 1/16". Whereas the wide PX-W extends about 1/4" past the inner cone. During installation, your slack skin has to get past that to be grabbed between the inner and the outer cones.

Anyway, this is a very happy development for me and I wanted to put in my 2-cents someplace appropriate so it might help others too. (I hope this wasn't "old news" to everyone but me. If it was, kindly ignore.:))

[NaturalMikeSoon]

Ron,

What is your thinking for the criteria for those who should use the TLC-X with the wide pusher?

Does the wide pusher have an effect on size of the opening for those of us who want to create as small of an opening as possible?

Natural Mike

[admin]

Ron,

What is your thinking for the criteria for those who should use the TLC-X with the wide pusher?

Does the wide pusher have an effect on size of the opening for those of us who want to create as small of an opening as possible?

Natural Mike

Thanks for the question. I was just trying to decide how to update the TLC web site in a way that's not too cluttered, to reflect what I now can do with these Pushers.

First, I'll address the "size of opening" issue as it relates to your tapered puckered result. The Pusher should be no wider than your flaccid glans width, so choosing the right size should never cause you to get unwanted skin tube girth.

Basically for sizing, I now have four overall widths: 1 1/16 inch, 1 3/16 inch (standard), 1.4" and 1.6 inch (and wider if needed) and I have three diameters for the interior curvature: 1 1/8", 1.5", and 1 7/8 inch. Since every glans is unique, somebody might need a Pusher that's wide overall, but with a pointiness so the deeper insert would be used to make the interior shape.

As it turns out, the 1 1/8" insert can be used with the Standard 1 3/16" overall diameter, because the insert is really a paraboloid not a spheroid (the diameter number is estimated based on the curvature 45 degrees off-axis). I was just thinking some of these longer Pushers might be more comfortable with the Deeper insert to keep the glans in the middle. However I can't use the Deep insert on anything shorter than the PX-9. The longest Pusher I have a standard mold for is 30mm, but I can go to any length by molding it longer in a separate add-on step in my telescopic mold.

Bottom line, I'm thinking I'm going to add a set of drop-downs so people can supply their glans width flaccid, glans width erect, and the percent of temporary glans coverage they can force while erect. Then I could recommend a Pusher and they would agree or not.

-Ron

[RobertW]

I'm thinking I'm going to add a set of drop-downs so people can supply their glans width flaccid, glans width erect, and the percent of temporary glans coverage they can force while erect. Then I could recommend a Pusher and they would agree or not.
Ron, now I'm curious what type of fit is your "goal". As one example, I'm very comfortable with the 1.5" PX-W, but I also notice I have a little more than 1/8" of additional corona extending out (out, not down towards me) beyond the PX-W pusher all the way around.

So in the perfect world of future drop-downs, is your goal to have the pusher extend all the way to the edges of a flaccid glans? i.e. would an even wider pusher be even more comfortable for me?

I know I'm asking the question in absence of the other measurements you require, so if it's not answerable that way, could you tell us your theory of how all those measurements figure into your sizing? Your "design philosophy" regarding fit?

Thanks.

[admin]

Ron, now I'm curious what type of fit is your "goal". As one example, I'm very comfortable with the 1.5" PX-W, but I also notice I have a little more than 1/8" of additional corona extending out (out, not down towards me) beyond the PX-W pusher all the way around.

So in the perfect world of future drop-downs, is your goal to have the pusher extend all the way to the edges of a flaccid glans? i.e. would an even wider pusher be even more comfortable for me?

I know I'm asking the question in absence of the other measurements you require, so if it's not answerable that way, could you tell us your theory of how all those measurements figure into your sizing? Your "design philosophy" regarding fit?

Thanks.

I typed a beautiful response but the forum ate it because my session had timed out.

Let me try again, but it's late so I'll be more brief. I basically look at someone's numbers and try to envision the best comfortable fit from my three interior curvatures and four widths.

I made the standard Pusher the same diameter as the standard TLC that I used for the bulk of my restoration (like today's Stretch 8). I hang over the edge of my Pusher, too, but I don't find it bothersome and I wouldn't want anything girthier in my skin tube. I'm going to make myself a Pusher with the Deep interior but at the same diameter tomorrow to see what I can learn from wearing it.

-Ron

[Randel]

Dear Ron,
I'm Back, I'm one of your biggist supporters of the TLC tugger-X. Would it be better for me to try one of your new models,..? When I walk my dogs at night, I come back to my house with a three inch soft penis with a full circle of wrinkeled new foreskin. What do you think. I just turned fifty.
Your friend,
Sincerely,
Randel

[RobertW]

I'm going to make myself a Pusher with the Deep interior but at the same diameter tomorrow to see what I can learn from wearing it.-Ron

How did it go, wearing a Deep Pusher?

[growin]

I've been using the TLC-X for 3 months and have lots more skin. Recently I received the 'springs' and have been using those successfully for the past 4 weeks (the screw no longer shifts up the handle part of the pusher). Because I have significant loose skin I've started using the largest separate Packer on the 'head' of the TLC-X Pusher. Is this OK????
Or should I just be pushing the TLC-X further into my shaft?
I've started to use the Packer with the TLC-X because it seems less painful than just the edge of the Pusher way down in the shaft.
Look forward to your comments and advice.
Thanks
Growin