the smell

[lnny0909]

i have noticed a very unpleasant smell since i have been restoring i clean my tlc X everyday with a tooth brush and soap and it has no smell after cleaning but after a few hours when i remove it to pee the smell is already there its the "fishy" smell i was wondering if that smell is coming from the tugger more so than the foreskin also has anyone with enough foreskin ever noticed if the smell is there even if you do not use any restoring device that day and lastly if fully restored can you go all day long without any smell? Thanks

[cloud7]

I noticed that a while ago, it kinda came and went,not sure if it's just something relating to the keratinized skin beginning to come off or what, but I haven't noticed in the last month or so

I noticed some of what looked like smegma, and did have a bit of odor, but I think it's just related to a lot of keratinized skin coming off the glans at once, I haven't changed my hygiene at all but have not had any smegma or odor in a bit. just keep tugging and I'd bet it will disappear

[Distalero]

This is an under-discussed issue, for obvious reasons. The usual culprit in causing an odor is urine, but that is after urinating, of course. When any mucosa, ie your glans, corona, and any original inner foreskin, is revitalized (becomes less keratinized and more moist), it will give off it's own natural odor, so yes, those of us who have grown a significant skin tube do notice some variation of that odor. It's there all he time, but like I've said, will change a bit from day to day.

When your hygiene is good, then that odor is light, but distinctive. When you've gone through part of the day, it will get a little stronger. When your glans, etc has been trapped in a device that keeps the airflow down some, it can get much stronger, and "fishy" is common. Just like females.

You will get used to it, or not, but it will happen. I use antibacterial soap to wash just the mucosa, and this keeps the odor away most of the day. I've tried other soaps, with different fragrances, but those fragrances don't cover the odor, and will in fact make it worse; at least that's my experience. That's why I went to antibacterial soap: it keeps the bacteria numbers down, and it's bacterial byproducts that are at the heart of any strong biological odor in the area.

[RickyM]

When I started restoring, the smell was dreadful. A bit like dead fish or putrifying cheese. It was like this for about 6 months and I couldn't really get rid of it no matter how clean I kept myself. After six months it sort of went away. It still smells a bit (probably urine), but nowhere nearly as bad as before. I can live with it now.

I don't know, but suspect the smell was due to losing the caloused skin over my glans -- rotting and coming off. Sounds grose -- but that is what it's all about -- it means an increase in glans sensitivity and a nice shiney new surface.

[z726]

Yeah, when I get the fishy odor and take a good strong whiff of it, it smells like a combination of smegma and stale urine. It doesn't happen often -- usually when I've kept covered for a few days and haven't rinsed the area. Even though I try to be careful about dabbing up any excess urine before I strap up, there's bound to be some residual piss left in there.

I've heard something about the natural bacterial flora that resides under the foreskin, but I'm no microbiologist. I suppose it returns to its normal state after the glans and all is covered for a while, but I don't know how long.

[lnny0909]

thanks for all the answers i have decided to not go forward with restoration mainly because of this thanks for all your help.

[Distalero]

That would be a big mistake, especially as you get older. Intact guys have an odor; women have an odor, circ'd guys have an odor. In all cases it can be naturally light, or it can be stronger, depending on various circumstances. You, and rest of us, are natural creatures. Are you not washing yourself currently? All it would take is a little specific hygiene to take care of things.

More importantly, what restoration returns is much more important and desirable than the minor downside of a different odor could ever affect. Not just the appearance of a skin tube covering, but a return, over time, of an intensity of sensation you've never had or even know about, assuming you are circ'd and have some shaft mucosa remaining.

[RickyM]

I agree with Distalero. Not going ahead based on smell is a bad decision. Yes, It might stink a bit for a period, but you're the only one who knows that and, then, only after you've had your hands down there. Nobody else would know about the smell unless their hands are down there as well. If smell becomes an issue for a period (it doesn't with everyone), you just have to make a point of washing especially just before your partner's hands, face, etc, approach your nether regions. Mayber I didn't make it clear before, but the really bad smell only lasted for about six months with me. Now, it's gone away -- well there is a bit of a urine smell, but I can live with that.

[Randel]

Now you guys have done it,...? I'm on my fifth month with my Tugger-x. I'm in my forties. Sit behind a computer most the day. Shower/Bathe maybe every third day. Never had any odor yet. Sexual activity...once a week.
You guys with your own experiences should state- Age, what type of job you do daily. And bathing habits, change of clean clothes, sexual habits.
Plus once I sat on my toilet to remove my cone. Started urinating and realized the streached/new foreskin had covered my whole gland and caused my urine to splatter. I always have to pull or roll my 'new' foreskin back.
Sincerely,
Randel

[jeff71913]

I am 43 and I have been seriously restoring for about 4 months. I drive a truck and when I am sitting behind the wheel I have complete coverage. Sometimes I run very hard and I might go for a couple of days without a shower. Yes, there is a unique smell, but, it doesn't bother me at all. Furthermore, when I am home I might have several hot baths per day, however, the smell returns very quickly. I think this is just part of what it means to be human and personally I like that.
Good hygiene is very important, but, so is being happy with your body and accepting it for what it is; smells and all.

jeff

[z726]

I should probably add to my reply that on the occasion I do notice an odor, it's only when I pull the skin back. Otherwise I can't really smell anything because it's covered.

Also for anyone worried about odor as a drawback to restoring: consider that the human crotch generally stinks when hot and sweaty and if you haven't bathed in a while. For me, that scent is often stronger than anything that develops under the foreskin.

[RickyM]

You guys with your own experiences should state- Age, what type of job you do daily. And bathing habits, change of clean clothes, sexual habits.

I'm 61 and have been restoring seriously since May 2007. I'm now a CI-7 flaccid and a 6 erect. I'm retired and spend my day in a variety of things ranging from sitting behind the computer, to walking the dog to doing weights at the gym. I shower daily and make a point of cleaning my nether regions well. My clothes are changed every other day unless I get swetty, then it's daily. My gear is washed daily with soap. I'm swapping between the TLC-X and TLC Packer. Both are good and each have their own suite of advantages and disadvantages.

Cheers,

Rick

[Joseph]

I have a natural member, and it over-hangs enough to close up and taper off.

To deny that I never smell is to deny the fact that an unwashed vagina smells.

I take a shower every evening, and I never really have a problem. After two or three days, it will begin to smell cheesy and fishy, but I wash and that takes care of the problem.

I just look at it this way. My GF smells when she doesn't take a shower, or right after her lady days. (You know, sometimes a man can't wait, and she can't either.)

Hell. If I don't wash well, my ASS starts smelling. My FEET start smelling too.

Washing's just a fact of life, and people have to learn to do it depending on what they do for a living etc.

[jerkyface]

I don't understand, I have um... been intimate with several uncut men and they never smelled...not at all... do you guys think there is something better about the cleaning aspect of a regular penis vs. an uncut penis?

[Randel]

I really think a couple of guys still need to apoligize or edit, for such statements that have been previously stated above. If anyguy from the above threads has a natural musky crotch odor that he thinks is fishy and rancid, I will fly you out to CA and bathe you on film(privately for the Dark side) and towel dry you and then bury my face there. I will be the Judge and Jury. Lol, just kidding! But trying to make a point. Not all people have encountered an odor. If I experienced it and was told that a rank smell comes with being uncut I would not be restoring either.

[jerkyface]

Holy Crap!! I cannot BELIEVE I wrote regular penis vs. uncut... what am I saying??? I'm the one that's all psyched on restoration here... god, I AM brainwashed!! :) that's freaky... apologies to all uncut men, because I love uncut, the slidy action, you're so lucky. Hopefully gonna start restoration soon.

[RickyM]

Not quite sure what you're saying here Randel. However, I know that my dick ponged over the first 6 months or so of restoration. That seems to have gone now -- so no point in taking you up on the free flight from Oz to CA -- well not so free -- the cost would have been that your face would be somewhere I'd prefer it wasn't. You'll have to take my word for it -- my dick stank for a while -- but only noticed when I put my hand down there, e.g. after a pee and gear needed to be reinstalled. Like I said above, I suspect the smell was due to losing the caloused skin over my glans -- rotting and coming off. I have no answer for this one.

What I'm not saying here (and have never intended to say) is that uncut/restored men stink. I have no idea whether they do or don't, not being intimate with anyone else's dick other than my own. For me, this was a passing phase. However, I must admit that at the time, I really wondered whether I wanted to continue. I did and I'm glad -- it's gone away. Nevertheless, I apologise if I gave the impression that I was having a go at uncut or restored men. That was not my intention.

[twist3dfck]

Smell:( , Stink:confused: , Smegma:eek: ???

Try mouth wash;). I don't have to explain why and how:) but if it kills bacteria from your mouth, it'll do the same down there. Euro guys use it (or atleast some of the guys I know) and that's the secret to staying fresh all day.

For the 'bacteria' lovers here, please excuse me.

[Distalero]

I really think a couple of guys still need to apoligize or edit, for such statements that have been previously stated above. If anyguy from the above threads has a natural musky crotch odor that he thinks is fishy and rancid, I will fly you out to CA and bathe you on film(privately for the Dark side) and towel dry you and then bury my face there. I will be the Judge and Jury. Lol, just kidding! But trying to make a point. Not all people have encountered an odor. If I experienced it and was told that a rank smell comes with being uncut I would not be restoring either.

A rank smell comes from no hygiene/no air flow. Restoring a skin tube and a revitalization of any mucosa present causes a light but distinctive odor. (I'm sure that has it's own spectrum due to various factors). Brave restorers have acknowledged this light odor. We are, after all, biological beings colonized by bacteria "inside" and out.

Actually, I'm beginning to wonder if this no odor insistence is a hold-over concept from circumcision culture; part of the propaganda, in other words. Interesting.

[RickyM]

A rank smell comes from no hygiene/no air flow.

Sorry Distalero, smell might come from poor hygene, but that is not the answer here. I kept myself far cleaner when I stank over the first six months than I do now. My gear and dick are washed thoroughly each day at present. Before, it was like two or three times a day. Just maybe, I've gotten used to it?

[Distalero]

Sorry Distalero, smell might come from poor hygene, but that is not the answer here. I kept myself far cleaner when I stank over the first six months than I do now. My gear and dick are washed thoroughly each day at present. Before, it was like two or three times a day. Just maybe, I've gotten used to it?

"Rank", of course, is subjective, to a certain degree anyhow. I suppose in a odor-is-the-devil culture of the West, intensified by the usual low level male anxiety about our penis, it wouldn't take much to seem offensively "rank" to ourselves.

What hasn't been discussed is time. Are you saying that you noticed that the rank odor didn't disappear right after washing? Or did it appear later in the day? As the day progresses the light odor will get a little stronger.

[RickyM]

What hasn't been discussed is time. Are you saying that you noticed that the rank odor didn't disappear right after washing? Or did it appear later in the day? As the day progresses the light odor will get a little stronger.

No the stink did disappear after washing, but returned RAPIDLY after washing, like within an hour or so. :mad: It was a very different and far worse smell than that I've got now. I don't like the smell I've got now, but can live with it. The other smell was something else. And yes, the current light smell does get worse as the day progresses, but not to the extent where I cannot put up with it.

[admin]

Hi,
I'm guessing that just like with breath, sometimes scrubbing/sanitizing genitals can make things worse by throwing out the sweet bacteria and leaving room for the foul ones to proliferate. Neutral/imperceptable aroma is a very unnatural thing for mouths, armpits, penises, or vaginas.

I can totally live with the very mild aroma I get at the end of the day after I use Cetaphil liquid skin cleanser. Alice has never said she didn't like the taste.

Now, I'm curious. Are those of you who are bothered by odor smelling this right through a condom? If you're in a stable relationship, pausing to wash before intimacy should not be a freak out for either of you; in fact if you're lathering each other up it can be pretty nice. But if you're doing something spontaneous with someone new away from facilities, you damn well better be using a condom! If you're out camping and your long-term partner wants to suck on you, maybe some wet-wipes are in order? There was a web site like MintyAss.com selling freshen-up stuff for butts and genitals.

-Ron

[Andy13]

Of course, when you combine skin and urine and lock them up in an airtight environment, the dry skin on the glans starts to moisten and slough off leaving nice soft skin that has it's properties as a mucous membrane restored. Now you have extra moisture involved. Add a little heat from close contact with the body and you have a wonderful odor factory!

Rejoice in the new odor! If it is too strong, rinse your penis and restoration device regularly, but DON"T give up on restorations!!! I agree that as we progress through the odor may tone down some, but as others have mentioned, there are other places where odor is much more noticeable AND IGNORED!!! I meet all kinds of people who have really bad breath every day. Think about who is likely to notice your "new smell", anyone who gets that close probably knows you well enough to either like it just the way it is (I kind of find it a turn on) or request a quick freshening up before continuing.

As I said earlier, REJOICE! The dead penis is coming back to life!!!

Best wishes.

Andy

[renofox]

Hi everyone! this is my 1st post and I hope it is informative. I Just started looking into restoration and while waiting for my equiptment in the mail i decided to start restoring glans sensitivity by tape coverage. I noticed 'the smell' by the end of the day. Hmm. after reading everything on this site I did some homework.

Some 'thing' is causing the smell, so what is it? it is probably among other things something called Trimethylamine. What are the main smells it generates? Ammonia like & fishiness.

just wiki 'Trimethylamine'

I found some interesting information on the buildup of this compound. I Happen to eat a high meat and dairy diet. More than 50%

"A balanced diet is also called for if Body Odor is a problem, ideally one in which 20% of the diet comes from protein (fish, poultry or vegetarian combinations of pulses and grains), 20% of the diet can come from oils and fats (avoiding animal fats as much as possible) with the balance from vegetables, fruit, pulses and grains.
This should be supported by a daily high potency multivitamin /multimineral supplement. Some people (about 7% of people complaining of body odor) do not completely digest particular foods because of in-born enzyme deficiencies, or due to acquired digestive problems, and this leads to a B.O. in which a strong 'fishy' smell is noted - especially around period time (or when the contraceptive pill is being used). The substance which causes this smell is called trimethylamine.2"


I had a live blood scan in the past. This is where the doctor takes a drop of blood and puts it under the microscope for you both to watch. You watch your blood do it's thing live. It's like watching a video game seeing white blood cells eat things and bacteria squiggle. My point is the doctor showed me undigested food in my blood because of a diet that did not supplement a healthy diet. He prescribed some prohibits to aid my digestion. Not Like indigestion, but as in to use my food instead of adding to leftovers floating around in my blood.

Based on this information 'the smell' in my opinion should be coming from the excretion of these chemicals in high amounts from the diet. I'm sure the shedding of skin, sweat and other chemicals would affect the situation too. Here is the full source of that info for advice.

I cant post links yet so if you want the site i found this at google search some of these items. globalhealingcenter com body-odor

i'll start paying attention to my food better and see if the probiotics make a difference.

[fauxskin2.0]

Maybe it is just me but I find my newly discovered odor somewhat intoxicating and sensual. Even after retaining all day my odor is not very strong. Mildly fishy, a little musky not unlike a clean vagina. My odor is sort of Goldilockish in a way if you will...just right.

Even my underarm b.o. is very mild, possibly my diet has something to do with it. Or boardering on being glabrous might help in not producing alot of body odor as bacteria love to cling and grow in under arm hair. I am not immune from smelly feet however, believe I got that trait from my Mom.

This is what we have to get accustomed to ,what we were denied when we were cut. Anyway if your odor becomes too strong a quick rinse with some water should do the trick, no strong soaps please.

Keep the faith.

[Distalero]

.....I had a live blood scan in the past. This is where the doctor takes a drop of blood and puts it under the microscope for you both to watch. You watch your blood do it's thing live. It's like watching a video game seeing white blood cells eat things and bacteria squiggle. My point is the doctor showed me undigested food in my blood because of a diet that did not supplement a healthy diet. He prescribed some prohibits to aid my digestion. Not Like indigestion, but as in to use my food instead of adding to leftovers floating around in my blood.

Based on this information 'the smell' in my opinion should be coming from the excretion of these chemicals in high amounts from the diet. I'm sure the shedding of skin, sweat and other chemicals would affect the situation too. Here is the full source of that info for advice.

I cant post links yet so if you want the site i found this at google search some of these items. globalhealingcenter com body-odor

i'll start paying attention to my food better and see if the probiotics make a difference.


Your "doctor" showed you what!!? "Squiggling bacteria" and "undigested food"? "Leftovers" in the blood ? Dude were you on the intensive care unit? And hallucinating?

This site isn't mine so I don't speak with any site authority, but as part of a general group I can say that trying to sell stuff here on the sly isn't appreciated much, partly because it inevitably concerns crap based in crap science, having nothing to do with restoration. At least you could brush up on basic human physiology before you start your spiel. Some of us are at least semi educated, you know, so you're gonna have to ramp up your approach. It is entertaining, though.

[jkwireless]

Maybe it is just me but I find my newly discovered odor somewhat intoxicating and sensual...

I have to agree with fauskin2.0. I've been restoring for about 3 weeks now, and it took less than a week for me to notice a destinctly new scent. My new scent has a very sweet overtone, I don't have anything approaching fishy at all.

My only changes in behaviour were rinsing only with water (no more uber scrub down with soap during my daily shower), and I've been trying to retain at night to keep covered as close to 24/7 as possible. I kind of like it as it reminds me that I'm on a new journey and lets me know that things are changing down there...

If it smelled like stinky feet, I'd feel differently. However, I would look for a better solution rather than abandoning my restoration. I've heard that the use of a little active culture yogurt (applied to the area) will actually counterbalance some of the bad bacteria and neutralize the undesirable odor. I have not tried this personally, but wouldn't hesitate if I was having an odor issue. Couldn't hurt. Perhaps somebody more knowledable can chime in. (Hello mythbusters...)

[fauxskin2.0]

Good one jkwireless ,that would be a must watch episode for sure. . Wonder who gets to do the sniffing.

[WoundedBird]

I just rinse with warm water and everything is fine. I definitely would not want to scrub my mucosa with anti-bacterial soap. I did start a thread about using alpha hydroxy acid, but I don't do that to wash, I don't do it every day, and I won't be doing it anymore once I am fully or nearly-fully dekeratinized. Anyway...I don't know. My beau has full flaccid coverage naturally as well as some erect coverage, so he is quite mucosal, and he uses only warm water on the inside of his penis. It doesn't smell bad at all...it has a very slight, natural aroma that I find very sexy. I don't like the smell of soap...I prefer a little natural oils and secretions. Making sure one shakes thoroughly after peeing and before replacing the skin ahead of the glans can go a long way in reducing odor. I love the natural smell of a penis, even with a drop of smegma in it...but I do not like the stink of stale urine, that I can agree with.

BTW - Lathering each other up in the shower is one of the most intimate things a couple can do! I love that...

[Americut]

Making sure one shakes thoroughly after peeing and before replacing the skin ahead of the glans can go a long way in reducing odor.

Personally, when I complete urination at the toilet, I hold a doubled over square of toilet paper against my meatus, squeeze at the base of my shaft and move towards my glans so that any urine remaining in the shaft will be pushed out and absorbed by the paper. I've done this ever since I've been tugging. I thought it would be best to do this before re-applying the tugger for another 3 to 4 hours.

As for this thread... I like how I smell. That is the smell of a man, I say. If you smell bad, then you need a wash. If a wash doesn't fix it then you might have a bit more of an issue to take care of (possibly an imbalance somewhere, or even a need for a medicinal assistance). If you just simply don't like the smell of a real man, then you should reconsider what you think a man should smell like :p

[admin]

this is my 1st post
. . .
Some 'thing' is causing the smell, so what is it?

Hi,
Welcome. As I understand it the aroma associated with our genitalia is mainly the smell of the waste products given off by beneficial bacteria digesting sloughed-off skin cells.

-Ron

[jphdg1]

I have only been restoring now for about a month and a half with a TLC-X in the evenings. I retain at nights five days a week and have two days off completely at the moment.

I have started to notice this smell a little myself over the past week or two. I tend to notice this during the day when not using my tugger. I also notice a smell after a few hours of using the tugger but it is a sweeter smell and more what I was expecting. I seem to now have more skin bunching up behind the glans which I think is why I am noticing the smell more during the day after I have touched down there.

Thank you for posting this topic, as my questions and or concerns about it have been answered already. I also ensure I wash with warm water thoroughly in the evening so know I am heading down the right track with everything and to press on knowing I am starting to see positive changes happening.
:)

[admin]

I have only been restoring now for about a month and a half with a TLC-X in the evenings. I retain at nights five days a week and have two days off completely at the moment.

I have started to notice this smell a little myself over the past week or two. I tend to notice this during the day when not using my tugger. I also notice a smell after a few hours of using the tugger but it is a sweeter smell and more what I was expecting. I seem to now have more skin bunching up behind the glans which I think is why I am noticing the smell more during the day after I have touched down there.

Thank you for posting this topic, as my questions and or concerns about it have been answered already. I also ensure I wash with warm water thoroughly in the evening so know I am heading down the right track with everything and to press on knowing I am starting to see positive changes happening.
:)

Hi,
I think it's good to let the device dry completely a few times per week. Never leave it sitting with any wetness pooled on it or in it.

The more often and the more vigorously we prod the skin under a stream of clear water to flush away loose skin, the less skin debris there will be for bacteria to digest. Thus less bacterial waste will give off that scent.

Of course it's a trade off because this same treatment will also abrade the surface and cause the skin to retain a thicker layer of flattened dried cells at the surface.

Use only clear water or you could tilt the balance in favor of anaerobic bacteria whose waste aroma most people find less sexy.

Anybody with a male dog please do this experiment. Stick your nose right down by your capsized dog's dink and see if you can smell anything. I don't know what nature's secret is, and obviously neither do the assholes cutting up our genitals.

[airpud]

Hi,
Welcome. As I understand it the aroma associated with our genitalia is mainly the smell of the waste products given off by beneficial bacteria digesting sloughed-off skin cells.

-Ron

Apparently more than that. There are apparently pheromones there. Ahem, designed to attract females. Having other males circed makes the competition less desirable to women.

[Manny]

The smell may be an important issue under an unconscious level when the pheromones are working to "attract" females (if we were living in the age of the caves), but certainly it's not an predominant factor in its totality in this age, that will determine if a woman "feels" attracted to circumcised or intact men.

There are other more -evolved- issues regarding this when a woman -want's- to have sex with a man, other than the smell. I.e., they feel attracted to a man if the man is secure/confident of himself (circumcised or intact), if the man makes the famous "clic" with a woman regarding feelings, ways of thinking, etc. (circumcised or intact), if the man has an interesting and attractive personality (circumcised or intact), if the man is smart or has intelligent conversation; on many superficial levels -but not less important- if the man is physically attractive to the woman (circumcised or intact), if the man is self-sufficient (circumcised or intact), etc., etc., etc.

So, from my point of view, yes, the smell is important, but not that important, because we are evolved human beings that act upon rationalized thoughts rather than act under programmed genetic particularities such as the smell that could trigger instantly certain kinds of behaviors.

Besides (I'm not sure about this) but I think that one thing are the "pheromones" which I believe don't have smell per se and are recieved by the person individually and other thing is the "smell" produced by the dead skin cells, etc. under the foreskin that produce that particular smell/odor (which are not the pheromones).

Regards.

[AshSW]

And pheromones do not just attract the opposite sex. It also works on guys, if the guy in question is into guys. Mother Nature is awesome!

[airpud]

And pheromones do not just attract the opposite sex. It also works on guys, if the guy in question is into guys. Mother Nature is awesome!

But I think usually this isnt the case. So not wanting other male pheromones around may have been a/the (subconscious) reason circ started in the first place.

[AshSW]

They don't only come from there, and in my experience, you have to be pretty close to Mr Happy to pick up phermomones directly from a penis. We give them off from all over our bodies, so I think cause and effect here is questionable. It is fascinating that they vary, though, and that people seem to be most attracted to the appropriate ones. They did blind t-shirt tests, and straight women seem to prefer straight male ones, gay men prefer gay male ones, etc.

[not yuuzhan vong]

But I think usually this isnt the case. So not wanting other male pheromones around may have been a/the (subconscious) reason circ started in the first place.

Like I said before, they didn't know where the pheromones came from.

[AshSW]

This is wild speculation, and I'm not buying it. Sorry.