I'm gonna kill myself.

[Bluegameroyon]

Ok. im gonna finally kill myself. i won't take away others' lives. they're all ants and, thus, it is useless killing them. they'll only reproduce.

don't stop me.

PS. im deleting my account.

edit- shit. how do i delete this account?

[Aspie]

Don't do it it's not worth it! Here's my cell phone number 828-371-3152 call me or text me please.

[mark85]

Whatever dude. Why would a person who was actually planning on being dead soon anonymously announce that to a bunch of strangers on the internet? And how do you think we'd even be capable of stopping you?

[Aspie]

Whatever dude. Why would a person who was actually planning on being dead soon anonymously announce that to a bunch of strangers on the internet? And how do you think we'd even be capable of stopping you?

BACK OFF! A lot of people actually announce they are going to kill themselves before they do kill themselves especially to people they have a connection too. You know he may not be telling us so we can stop us it could just be a farewell that I for one hope he doesn't make. So if your not going to be supportive than go fuck off because apparently you know nothing of being driven to the point of wanting to die!

[Terato]

Whatever dude. Why would a person who was actually planning on being dead soon anonymously announce that to a bunch of strangers on the internet? And how do you think we'd even be capable of stopping you?

Actually, people have killed themselves online or announced that they were going to do so before. So... yeah, not the best thing to say, dude.

OP, please get professional help. You have a LOT of issues regarding not only circumcision but also anger towards a lot of people. You've lashed out at everyone here, and at whole ethnic groups of people with some pretty vicious words. I suspect you have a lot of self-hate that you're turning both outward onto others and inward onto yourself. Suicide is not a solution to this, it's just the end of your life.

I urge you to stop planning or working towards whatever attempt you may be in the middle of, and talk to someone you trust, I don't care who it is, about this. Voluntarily commit yourself to a mental asylum for a few days if need be to chill out and seek help from there.

[Bluegameroyon]

Actually, people have killed themselves online or announced that they were going to do so before. So... yeah, not the best thing to say, dude.

OP, please get professional help. You have a LOT of issues regarding not only circumcision but also anger towards a lot of people. You've lashed out at everyone here, and at whole ethnic groups of people with some pretty vicious words. I suspect you have a lot of self-hate that you're turning both outward onto others and inward onto yourself. Suicide is not a solution to this, it's just the end of your life.

I urge you to stop planning or working towards whatever attempt you may be in the middle of, and talk to someone you trust, I don't care who it is, about this. Voluntarily commit yourself to a mental asylum for a few days if need be to chill out and seek help from there.

heh, you know what? FUCK YOU.

[Bluegameroyon]

Don't do it it's not worth it! Here's my cell phone number 828-371-3152 call me or text me please.

Thank you, Aspie. you're literally a life-saver.:D

[mark85]

Actually, people have killed themselves online or announced that they were going to do so before. So... yeah, not the best thing to say, dude.

I realize that, but either way they are just looking for a reaction. No one can save them but themselves. So, it doesn't matter what I say, none of us have any power of influence over his actions that he doesn't grant us, that's the appeal of the anonymous suicide threat.

[Bluegameroyon]

I realize that, but either way they are just looking for a reaction. No one can save them but themselves. So, it doesn't matter what I say, none of us have any power of influence over his actions that he doesn't grant us, that's the appeal of the anonymous suicide threat.

actually, subconsciously i was asking for help. i already knew that when i was typing it. why did i even type it? heh, its just as the other guy said- this website is my connection.

so can u please fuck off? :) thank you, you little cheesecake.

[mark85]

actually, subconsciously i was asking for help. i already knew that when i was typing it. why did i even type it? heh, its just as the other guy said- this website is my connection.

That would qualify as looking for a reaction. Next time, just come out and ask for help instead of trying to manipulate people.

[Bioldi]

That would qualify as looking for a reaction. Next time, just come out and ask for help instead of trying to manipulate people.

Not everyone has been cultured/conditioned to be able to ask for help. Sometimes people have to be round about to ask for help. They're not you, you're not them.

[sync45]

Bioldi,

As a journalist with a long experience, I can tell you that protest-suidices make no lasting impression. They are a sad waste of a person's life. They are recorded and then quickly forgotten - very quickly, in fact. That's a big price to pay for a micro-second of attention.

Killing yourself over circumcision will only play further into the hands of the demonic forces that did it to you. They don't care about you. They won't even know who you are, nor will they care.

Don't become their ultimate victim. Thumb your nose at them by taking back control of your body from them. Don't allow yourself to be their slave. Start restoration, and start losing that grief that has pushed you to this point.

I can imagine that you've felt alone and abused in your life, and being circumcised is the straw that broke the camel's back. Reading all the moans and groans of "grievers" doesn't help, it only makes matters worse in some cases.

But circumcision is not a terminal disease, nor should it be a grounds for neurosis. It is reversible, and people here are doing it every day. Think of restoration as a miracle drug. If you take this approach, you should get positive results and you'll feel a lot better quickly. At least it's worth a try. Remember, there's quite a bit at stake here....YOU!

Sync45

[mark85]

Not everyone has been cultured/conditioned to be able to ask for help. Sometimes people have to be round about to ask for help. They're not you, you're not them.

This is anonymous, it isn't any easier to state that you're going to kill yourself than it is to say that you're thinking about killing yourself and you don't know what to do. If you regret saying something, then you never have to live with the consequences because no one knows who you are. There are cries for help, and then there's just crying wolf because you want someone to run to your rescue. This is the internet, throw a rock and you'll probably find someone saying they're going to kill themselves where it lands. That's why I don't indulge them with platitudes, nor do I give out sympathy to people who make thinly veiled homicidal threats.

I've lived most of my life with depression and suicidal thoughts. I fully understand what it is to live with the appeal of suicide, but because I understand it leaves me with little sympathy for those who wish to use it to abuse the sympathies of others. Being suicidal does not make you special.

[admin]

Thanks guys for the supportive words.

I would add that my phone number is 847 414-1692 but I sometimes don't pick up if I'm in the shop or alseep. Leave a message. We could Skype.

The best revenge is living well.

-Ron Low
TLCTuggerService@GMail.com
(I get a lot of emails and sometimes take a day to reply)

[madbr3991]

please don't kill yourself. if you are dead you can't help to protect others. I have also struggled with wanting to kill myself. I am still here. because I know that if I die then nothing will change. sure some people will grieve but in time I would be forgotten. and all the knowledge that I have learned will be lost if I die. so I have made my anger and depression part of me .they help to power me. I am stronger now because of what I have gone through.

if you live you can see the effect that the intactivists movement will have on the world. we as a movement are still small but we are growing and getting stronger. we have already brought the circumcision rate down from 90% to less than 50% in the US in less than 20 years. jews and muslims are angry at us that alone means we are making progress. we are even getting media attention.

this forum helped stabilize me and saved my life. i will now help anyone that i can. live on and become stronger and wiser.

if you want to talk over the phone reply and i will send my number.

[Terato]

heh, you know what? FUCK YOU.

See? That's an example of what I said, right there.

You are the meanest, most vicious person on this forum. You lash out at everyone here.

[broken]

OP, I think it would be good if you actually told us why you want to kill yourself, then perhaps we can work through some of the points and perhaps offer some solutions. "Circumcision" covers a whole number of things, so be specific.

e.g. Is it the physical feeling of being circumcised you don't like? Do you find it uncomfortable?

Is it the sexual side? Are you dysfunctional?

Is it the psychological side, the betrayal of trust and feelings of abuse?

The more detail you can tell us the more we can help.

[EliteDoomer]

Ok. im gonna finally kill myself. i won't take away others' lives. they're all ants and, thus, it is useless killing them. they'll only reproduce.

don't stop me.

PS. im deleting my account.

edit- shit. how do i delete this account?

Don't let them win.

[kevin1992]

I hope your not killed yourself already, and not gonne do it eather.
I know, it is hard to dont do it. I want do it to, i feel so bad about being circumcised. My relationship actually saved me that i was feeling happyer, for a time i was only living for my boyfriend. and anything else i didn't care of. I wanted to have a great life with him. and dead you simply stop life and nothing will happen then. the wonderfull things of life you dont gonne have. The bad things ether, and if you live then you have all the good things, offcorse the bad things to.
Ofcorse there ar bad things. my relationship ended a month and a week ago or something. and then i have almost a new one, in 1 week a month. that good thing saved my life again. life is hard and bad, i want to die to stop that. but it is just to beautufull to stop it. And you can make it as beautifull as you want.

I was thinking, over a while i am restored and i just hope everything gets better. my body gets better, and my problems gets over and psychological it get better. maybe i leave my parents to never see them again. gonne be just happy and make my life good and so as i want it. I was just thinking this night, i do what i want, to make myself happy.

it is hard to just be happy, some things are easy to make good, some things they cannot be made good anymore. And that is bad, i know. I have to miss my foreskin forever. But i can have a new one.
My boyfriend is gone forever i geas. but i have a new one.
The scars on your soul and hard are there forever and hard to live with. But being happy with a new foreskin, or just other problems to have solutions to, i think is good. To bad it cannot be 100% and thats hard, but there are good things to you dont wanne miss.

I hope you can be happy, and not kill yourself. but give yourself one gift. A beautifull life.
I dont care how you are gonne make your life beautifull, if you want you are booking a trip to hawai to enjoy the coconuts for life, i dont care. But just make your life beautifull and not end it. make it beautifuller then death ;)

[sync45]

Perhaps it might be helpful to remember that there is a life above the waistline - or should be.

There are people with no arms or no legs. They may have lost their sight or their hearing, or they may be paralyzed. Or maybe they had their *entire* penis shot, blown or cut away in a war or accident, or in a vicious criminal attack. Those men *really* have problems.

Let's get circumcision into perspective. It's *not* the end of the world, and above all, no one should end their life over it.

"Grieving" over circumcision is one thing, but killing yourself over it is just plain insane.

I say again: Let's get it into proportion and perspective. And if being circumcised really is such an issue, than all you have to do is exercise some self-help and restore!

I'm sorry to say that for some, moaning about problems seems more important than doing something about them. Sharing or discussing a problem helps a lot of people, and I'm not belittling that. But that is not a replacement for taking control and doing something about the thing that is troubling you.

And lest I be called "insensitive" or "unfeeling", let me hasten to say that these comments are coming from a compationate, very much left-of-center individual. I have had a number of my own issues in my nearly 66 years of life. But you can't allow yourself to cave in to life's challenges. You have to show courage and fight against what hurts you. That will do you far more good than self-pity, and certainly a lot more than suicide.


Sync45

[kevin1992]

Perhaps it might be helpful to remember that there is a life above the waistline - or should be.

There are people with no arms or no legs. They may have lost their sight or their hearing, or they may be paralyzed. Or maybe they had their *entire* penis shot, blown or cut away in a war or accident, or in a vicious criminal attack. Those men *really* have problems.

Let's get circumcision into perspective. It's *not* the end of the world, and above all, no one should end their life over it.

"Grieving" over circumcision is one thing, but killing yourself over it is just plain insane.

I say again: Let's get it into proportion and perspective. And if being circumcised really is such an issue, than all you have to do is exercise some self-help and restore!

I'm sorry to say that for some, moaning about problems seems more important than doing something about them. Sharing or discussing a problem helps a lot of people, and I'm not belittling that. But that is not a replacement for taking control and doing something about the thing that is troubling you.

And lest I be called "insensitive" or "unfeeling", let me hasten to say that these comments are coming from a compationate, very much left-of-center individual. I have had a number of my own issues in my nearly 66 years of life. But you can't allow yourself to cave in to life's challenges. You have to show courage and fight against what hurts you. That will do you far more good than self-pity, and certainly a lot more than suicide.


Sync45
You are indensitive and unfeeling!

Please, yes someone has looses a leg, some one one arm or eye, but i dont, i lost my foreskin. And that is bad to me. Dont say i have nothing to be sad for becouse there is somone that has it 'worse' becouse he is lost his whole penis or something.
For me is this the end of the world.

Self help en restore is not i selution to everything. You lost your foreskin forever, you can tug and restore your whole life, maybe 100 years, never, never you get your own foreskin back that you miss. Never the years of pain are gonne be forgotten.

This is bad, it ruïnd my life. I want to end my life to, i dont want to and i cant live without my foreskin. I hope i can live with a restored one and can be happy by other things. So i dont end my life. I dont want to eather.
Dont ever gonne say again that it is just not so bad becouse there are poeple with no legs or something. They have it dificult. Well, i have it difficult to.

[slickskin]

You are indensitive and unfeeling!

Please, yes someone has looses a leg, some one one arm or eye, but i dont, i lost my foreskin. And that is bad to me. Dont say i have nothing to be sad for becouse there is somone that has it 'worse' becouse he is lost his whole penis or something.
For me is this the end of the world.

Self help en restore is not i selution to everything. You lost your foreskin forever, you can tug and restore your whole life, maybe 100 years, never, never you get your own foreskin back that you miss. Never the years of pain are gonne be forgotten.

It fucking sucks, we all get that. But does it really warrant suicide? That won't give anyone back their foreskins either. I'd rather be alive and do what ever I can to fix the calamity. Speak out, protest, write angry letters, educate, tug! Better yet, try to enjoy life despite not being perfect.

[Rikimusha]

You are indensitive and unfeeling!

Please, yes someone has looses a leg, some one one arm or eye, but i dont, i lost my foreskin. And that is bad to me. Dont say i have nothing to be sad for becouse there is somone that has it 'worse' becouse he is lost his whole penis or something.
For me is this the end of the world.

Self help en restore is not i selution to everything. You lost your foreskin forever, you can tug and restore your whole life, maybe 100 years, never, never you get your own foreskin back that you miss. Never the years of pain are gonne be forgotten.

This is bad, it ruïnd my life. I want to end my life to, i dont want to and i cant live without my foreskin. I hope i can live with a restored one and can be happy by other things. So i dont end my life. I dont want to eather.
Dont ever gonne say again that it is just not so bad becouse there are poeple with no legs or something. They have it dificult. Well, i have it difficult to.

We are all capable of feeling. This is all a struggle between pessimism and optimism. You are way on the pessimistic side. And we are in the realistic center. We can all fight and save many others from the wrongs did on us when we were helpless to the adults, propaganda, etc.

The reason sync brought that up wasn't to shut you up, but instead to show that those men, who lost everything, were able to bring back some of their life. That should serve as an milestone to work toward. This isn't a matter of which is harsher or not, but instead a demonstration of man's capacity to move on.

You want to know some things that really made me love life despite my circumcision? Learning to crochet, unicycle, going vegan. These are all my specific to me, but it shows there is much more to life to live for. I just tell myself, that tomorrow will be better than the one before. I make sure that there is always some room for improvement. Open your eyes.

[sync45]

APOLOGIES: I ORIGNALLY AND ERRONIOUSLY ADDRESSED THIS TO SLICKSKIN. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRSSSED TO KEVIN1992, WHICH I HAVE CORRECTED)

Kevin1992 (and others of like mind),

I suggest you re-read what I wrote, maybe several times, hanging on each word, and instead of the îrrational rage against me, you might take an emotional time-out and really think about it. If that doesn't help, then I most sincerely and seriously suggest that you seek professional help. I would suggest that the foreskin issue is a proxy for other, deeper-lying, psychological issues that need attention.

This is not a soap opera, it's real life - in this case, yours. There is no such thing as "bad things" happening to us. Everything that occurs in our lives is for a purpose, and presents a challenge , but also a chance to grow (no pun intended).The old life script you got isn't workng for you, and has made you feel a victim. So throw it out. Write a new one for yourself. It's time that you emancipated yourself. When you do, you'll stop feeling like a victim.

If I were unfeeling and uncaring, I would not spend time on this. Don't kill the messenger who bears the bad news (maybe it's good news in disguise). You're in a hole, and someone's throwing you a rope. Grab it.

Sync45

[sync45]

Thanks Rikimusha. You understand.

[Bluegameroyon]

See? That's an example of what I said, right there.

You are the meanest, most vicious person on this forum. You lash out at everyone here.

Yeah. i really don't care. like me, love me, hate me, kill me. what's the difference? i dont fucking care.

i have nothing to lose and nothing to gain. i am zero.

[z726]

Yeah. i really don't care. like me, love me, hate me, kill me. what's the difference? i dont fucking care.

i have nothing to lose and nothing to gain. i am zero.

Well then you've just gotta find people in your life who do care about you.

[Aspie]

Bluegameroyon you aren't zero because that would mean your nothing and your not nothing your something. You might not even be close to the pinnacle of who can become however that's ok because your something and you can evolve and become more :D

[admin]

Well then you've just gotta find people in your life who do care about you.

I like to think in terms of pursuing that which I love, and expecting that pursuit to raise the odds of finding like-minded folk along the way.

[broken]

Bluegame, you still haven't answered my question.

Why do you actually want to kill yourself?

Tell us, then perhaps we can work through some of the points and offer some solutions. Don't just say "Circumcision"; that covers a whole number of things, so be specific.

e.g. Is it the physical feeling of being circumcised you don't like? Do you find it uncomfortable?

Is it the sexual side? Are you dysfunctional?

Is it the psychological side, the betrayal of trust and feelings of abuse, the sense of loss?

Or are there other things in you life too which you don't like?

As I said, the more detail you can tell us the more we can help.

[kevin1992]

Yeah. i really don't care. like me, love me, hate me, kill me. what's the difference? i dont fucking care.

i have nothing to lose and nothing to gain. i am zero. I think you maybe can care. You have nothing to lose? Make something to lose, make something that you can love. make your life, how difficult it is, beautifull. Hope you can do that. Restore, and hopefully you can feel better and one day you be happy, thinking about al the things that are gonne happen, and over 50 years had happen, Maybe your married, have children, have a wonderfull life, have a beautifull self made restored foreskin that you can enjoy.

It fucking sucks, we all get that. But does it really warrant suicide? That won't give anyone back their foreskins either. I'd rather be alive and do what ever I can to fix the calamity. Speak out, protest, write angry letters, educate, tug! Better yet, try to enjoy life despite not being perfect.Suicide stops life, but stops the pain to. It is hard then to not doing it. And yea i dont gonne do it eather. But i want to.

APOLOGIES: I ORIGNALLY AND ERRONIOUSLY ADDRESSED THIS TO SLICKSKIN. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRSSSED TO KEVIN1992, WHICH I HAVE CORRECTED)

Kevin1992 (and others of like mind),

I suggest you re-read what I wrote, maybe several times, hanging on each word, and instead of the îrrational rage against me, you might take an emotional time-out and really think about it. If that doesn't help, then I most sincerely and seriously suggest that you seek professional help. I would suggest that the foreskin issue is a proxy for other, deeper-lying, psychological issues that need attention.

This is not a soap opera, it's real life - in this case, yours. There is no such thing as "bad things" happening to us. Everything that occurs in our lives is for a purpose, and presents a challenge , but also a chance to grow (no pun intended).The old life script you got isn't workng for you, and has made you feel a victim. So throw it out. Write a new one for yourself. It's time that you emancipated yourself. When you do, you'll stop feeling like a victim.

If I were unfeeling and uncaring, I would not spend time on this. Don't kill the messenger who bears the bad news (maybe it's good news in disguise). You're in a hole, and someone's throwing you a rope. Grab it.

Sync45

I dont need professional help, i need my foreskin!
There are no such ting as bad things happen? What are you thinking? :mad: what a challenge, what a chance to grow, i actually must be happy what there was somone that cut in me, oh yea, so happy that al the nervs etc are cut away, just happy that i feel bad, just happy that i have nightterrors, no, that are beautifull dreams offcorse. Becouse it is so great to be circumcised, then we are getting stronger if we restore. What a beautufull thing, getting stronger of this challenge.

I AM A VICTIM!
Sorry, but you give me a rope that is already broken. You dont help, you just acting wierd. But if that helps you, good for you, hopefully you can be happy avout al what happened, but that is nothing for me.

[sync45]

Blue...

I'll just repeat what I posted before. You're a very sick guy and you do need professional help - or maybe an exorcist. I mean that seriously.

All of us are here for the same reason. But what makes you think that your problem is more important than ours? You were possibily neglected, abused and put-down as a kid. Conversely, you may also have been a kid who attracted attention by going into tantrums. Both may apply.

But it's time to get rid of that millstone and neurotic behavior. It doesn't work in adult life. Grow up and and start living. Cut the self-pity and attention-getting (which you're probably enjoying). Time to change or upgrade your behaviorial software.

You are playing a manipulative game here, and I'm opting out.

Game over. Good luck.

Sync45

[Bluegameroyon]

Bluegame, you still haven't answered my question.

Why do you actually want to kill yourself?

Tell us, then perhaps we can work through some of the points and offer some solutions. Don't just say "Circumcision"; that covers a whole number of things, so be specific.

e.g. Is it the physical feeling of being circumcised you don't like? Do you find it uncomfortable?

Is it the sexual side? Are you dysfunctional?

Is it the psychological side, the betrayal of trust and feelings of abuse, the sense of loss?

Or are there other things in you life too which you don't like?

As I said, the more detail you can tell us the more we can help.

people like you piss me off. can't you search my posts??? all the answers are there. well, at least most of them.

[mark85]

Blue...

I'll just repeat what I posted before. You're a very sick guy and you do need professional help - or maybe an exorcist. I mean that seriously.

All of us are here for the same reason. But what makes you think that your problem is more important than ours? You were possibily neglected, abused and put-down as a kid. Conversely, you may also have been a kid who attracted attention by going into tantrums. Both may apply.

But it's time to get rid of that millstone and neurotic behavior. It doesn't work in adult life. Grow up and and start living. Cut the self-pity and attention-getting (which you're probably enjoying). Time to change or upgrade your behaviorial software.

You are playing a manipulative game here, and I'm opting out.

Game over. Good luck.

Sync45

I'm not approving of the way blue has behaved himself here, but being suicidal is not claiming that your problems are objectively more important than anyone else's. There is no such thing as objective importance, importance is relative. He has no obligation to anyone else's standards of how important anything should be to him. It could be he's ultra-fixated on circumcision because of underlying problems, or it could be that circumcision is just one of many legitimate problems he has, or it could be that he's just someone that can't handle the reality of being less than whole. People are different, different people can tolerate different things at varying degrees. I'm sure the way he's behaved here he probably does have many different psychological problems, but he's under no obligation to anyone else to change what he feels important for himself, and he's under no obligation to anyone else to live. I hope he decides to give the idea of getting better a chance, but trying to stop someone from killing themselves or feeling a certain way by telling them they have an obligation to other people, is not the right way to go about it. People ultimately have to live for themselves.

[admin]

being suicidal is not claiming that your problems are objectively more important than anyone else's. There is no such thing as objective importance, importance is relative.
Luckily, there's always some poor sap whose problems are worse than ours.

There was a guy on Howard Stern this summer whose scrotum is the size of a couple watermelons and he has no means to afford the medical treatment that could give him some relief.

There was also a heinous penis injury contest on Howard Stern and the "winner" had survived flesh-eating bacteria that cost him his scrotum, and his one surviving testicle had to be surgically tucked in a pouch of skin above his penis, and he can't have sex at all.

[broken]

people like you piss me off. can't you search my posts??? all the answers are there. well, at least most of them.

To be honest I can't be arsed to search your posts.

You came on here asking for help and people have tried their best but you have been nothing but rude.

If you want help then tell us specifically what your problem is and maybe you will find some advice.

[mark85]

Luckily, there's always some poor sap whose problems are worse than ours.

There was a guy on Howard Stern this summer whose scrotum is the size of a couple watermelons and he has no means to afford the medical treatment that could give him some relief.

There was also a heinous penis injury contest on Howard Stern and the "winner" had survived flesh-eating bacteria that cost him his scrotum, and his one surviving testicle had to be surgically tucked in a pouch of skin above his penis, and he can't have sex at all.

The whole "other people have it worse" angle doesn't work.

[redwolfbear]

Ok. im gonna finally kill myself. i won't take away others' lives. they're all ants and, thus, it is useless killing them. they'll only reproduce.

don't stop me.

PS. im deleting my account.

edit- shit. how do i delete this account?

been ther edone that tried and failed more times then i can coutn though it certainly was not for lack of trying on my part

heaven does not want me and hells afraid i would take over running the joint

why else would i have a angel and a devil watching me over the shulders lol

i happen to be a victim of male genital mutilation same as you though but also happen to be a surviving child rape victim on top of that plus also being a victim of gaybashing all through my teen years

it aint worth it man cause once your dead thats it theres not turning back

[broken]

So how are you doing now Bluegameroyon? Is this all about you circumcision, or do you have some other issues which are getting you down as well?

Here's a quote from a website: "Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain....You can survive suicidal feelings if you do either of two things: (1) find a way to reduce your pain, or (2) find a way to increase your coping resources. Both are possible."

Taken from: http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

[mark85]

So how are you doing now Bluegameroyon? Is this all about you circumcision, or do you have some other issues which are getting you down as well?

Here's a quote from a website:

Taken from: http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

I like that quote, very succinctly put.

[reneroissy]

Perhaps it might be helpful to remember that there is a life above the waistline - or should be.

There are people with no arms or no legs. They may have lost their sight or their hearing, or they may be paralyzed. Or maybe they had their *entire* penis shot, blown or cut away in a war or accident, or in a vicious criminal attack. Those men *really* have problems.

Let's get circumcision into perspective. It's *not* the end of the world, and above all, no one should end their life over it.

"Grieving" over circumcision is one thing, but killing yourself over it is just plain insane.

I say again: Let's get it into proportion and perspective. And if being circumcised really is such an issue, than all you have to do is exercise some self-help and restore!

I'm sorry to say that for some, moaning about problems seems more important than doing something about them. Sharing or discussing a problem helps a lot of people, and I'm not belittling that. But that is not a replacement for taking control and doing something about the thing that is troubling you.

And lest I be called "insensitive" or "unfeeling", let me hasten to say that these comments are coming from a compationate, very much left-of-center individual. I have had a number of my own issues in my nearly 66 years of life. But you can't allow yourself to cave in to life's challenges. You have to show courage and fight against what hurts you. That will do you far more good than self-pity, and certainly a lot more than suicide.


Sync45

Wise words. Thank you - they have helped me today, on what has been a very dark day.
Peace.
Michael