Sex-Change Surgery forced on Infants?!

[painfulquestioning]

[The purpose of this brief overview and opinion with links for further reading, is to introduce the topic of surgical gender norming of babies for those intactivists who aren't familiar with it. ]


When your newborn infant is perfectly healthy, the social pressure to cut off healthy body parts is strong... However, imagine if you were one of the parents of the estimated 1 in 2000 babies born each year who do not have a clearly defined gender. Parents and doctors face a strong temptation for immediate surgery on the infant's genitalia to make the infant appear as if they were definitively male or female. Under the current medical protocol, full infant sex-change genital surgeries and many other surgical 'reconstructions' are often still standard procedure in such cases.

The parents and doctor feel so uncomfortable about the baby's genital appearance that they surgically alter the baby's genitalia until it cosmetically 'conforms' just so the parents and Doctor themselves can feel better. However the baby does not care what it's genitalia looks like and won't for many years -- e just wants to be taken care of and loved. Only recently did the medical community do any follow-up studies to see how content the surgically-altered were. Overwhelmingly, they expressed dissatisfaction with having genital surgeries forced upon them -- with many cases of them being 'turned into' a different gender than they internally feel they are.

Should we irreversibly alter an infant's genitalia without knowing what they would want?

If parents are experiencing anxiety about the baby's genital appearance, this should be treated with counseling for the parents and not with surgery to the baby. The baby and not the parents is the patient, so a much better approach would be to raise the child as e is and then let them decide upon any possible surgical alteration when they reach an age where they can make a decision that is best for themselves.

They said her clitoris was too big
http://www.ontheissuesmagazine.com/su98coventry.html

A mainstream news article calls for an end non-consensual surgical intervention
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6994580/

"I would much rather keep my clitoris and have orgasms than have a box to check off."
http://www.healthyplace.com/Communit...sex_police.htm

Learn about the academic fraud at the heart of Doctor's rationalizations
http://www.reason.com/links/links052404.shtml

An academic analysis of the current situation to date
http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/online_ar...rsex00_00.html

Human Rights for Intersexuals
http://www.luckymojo.com/tkintersex.html

Intersex Society of North America
http://www.isna.org/

[ss748]

there was another case i saw on TV, a "boy" had been born looking like a boy but for some reasons the doctors said he was a girl (I don't remember why). The mom dressed him up in a tuxedo when they left to make a point, but the doctor later recommended a biopsy on the testicle to make sure it wasn't cancerous, they then said it was and removed it. the mom later requested the biopsy findings and found it was normal

they won a lawsuit but now the boy of course can no longer have kids and such. shameful what doctors will do because some have a god complex. too often the considerations are "can we" and not "should we" in these types of cases

[Administrator]

I've seen numbers as high as 1 in 500 babies that have ambiguous genitalia.
-Ron

[random1]

Originally Posted by ss748

there was another case i saw on TV, a "boy" had been born looking like a boy but for some reasons the doctors said he was a girl (I don't remember why). The mom dressed him up in a tuxedo when they left to make a point, but the doctor later recommended a biopsy on the testicle to make sure it wasn't cancerous, they then said it was and removed it. the mom later requested the biopsy findings and found it was normal

they won a lawsuit but now the boy of course can no longer have kids and such. shameful what doctors will do because some have a god complex. too often the considerations are "can we" and not "should we" in these types of cases

That... that there just makes my blood boil.

It's just sad how many heartless, disrespectful, idiotic, and bias medical 'professionals' we have as doctors. You gotta be careful with doctors, if you don't agree with them - then you are ABSOL-BLOODY-LUTELY RIGHT!

Being independent is also key. Pieces of trash doctors should go to jail and the medical place should revoke his license for the rest of his life, but as far as we know, America isn't a democracy. It's a corporatocy

[madbr3991]

Originally Posted by ss748

there was another case i saw on TV, a "boy" had been born looking like a boy but for some reasons the doctors said he was a girl (I don't remember why). The mom dressed him up in a tuxedo when they left to make a point, but the doctor later recommended a biopsy on the testicle to make sure it wasn't cancerous, they then said it was and removed it. the mom later requested the biopsy findings and found it was normal

they won a lawsuit but now the boy of course can no longer have kids and such. shameful what doctors will do because some have a god complex. too often the considerations are "can we" and not "should we" in these types of cases

i remember seeing that on tv years ago it. stuff like this is truly horrible. this kid won't be able to have children. and most likely will have little to no sexual sensation

[airpud]

Circumcision is a partial sex-change surgery. Like it or not, it's quite literally what it is.

[kevin1992]

Originally Posted by airpud

Circumcision is a partial sex-change surgery. Like it or not, it's quite literally what it is.

Offcourse it circumcision not something as sex-change or something. It is amputation of a piece from the body. mutilation becouse it is useles to do it.

But there is no such thing as circ is relted to sex-change surgery. Did you get a less male body (yes okey, you did, becouse you lost something but that is not what i was reffering to) Did you get more female body? No you didn't. Actually, females have kind of foreskins too i thought?

[Laatlanta]

I think the post before the previous was referring to a "partial sex change surgery" as being so because you lose a very important part of the penis required for it to function properly. While I wouldn't have described it that way, I can totally understand what the poster meant.

Yes, women also have a foreskin that protects their clit just like the males foreskin protects what the 3-month old fetal clit grew into, the glans of the penis.

Funny, nobody has any problems with the female foreskin, neither the medical community or any females or males convinced that the uncut, natural penis is dirty.

All the furor right now in Germany and Austria from the Jewish and Muslim communities is sickening. All because parents forced this on a 4 year old boy and it went horribly wrong, so now doctors are standing up for the rights of the patients instead of their religiously fanatical parents. I say it's about time and it needs to happen here in the USA.

Several months ago a court in San Francisco ruled that allowing parents to circumcise their non-consenting sons would be protected since it was done under freedom of religion. It's so sick and makes me mad that nobody actually cares about this.

Last, through facebook there is a wonderful anti-circ group, called "www.thewholenetwork.com". I've generated tons of discussion through my group of friends simply by reposting the groups posts a couple of times/week. This is a topic that people hate to discuss because so many have repressed guilt over it. Ignoring it isn't an option that will make it go away.

[maxadam]

Sex change on infant??? seriously a big crime. I would stand against it if i get a opportunity.

[Joseph]

Watch this. I nearly cried...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OiZiJoQZrXU