stemm cell product for restored foreskins?

[INeedAForeskinTransplant]

Originally Posted by Someone mundane

Don't let Distalero discourage you. That was a pretty pointless post.

EDIT: But as for placebo effects being involved in restoration... I'm pretty sure that tissue expansion is by no means a placebo. If new tissues are in fact grown during the process, then how could that ever reasonably be considered a placebo? It has an effect; it factually works to a degree. That said, bear in mind that "placebos" can work the other way around too. Yes, this also includes wanting a tissue regeneration procedure carried out... Are any of you open to the possibility that it could merely be your own psyche working against you that makes things appear this bad? Some of the appeal in tissue regeneration like this could be partially mental. Don't misunderstand me; I don't say this to undermine any of what you're all trying to do. (I admit to being interested in it myself.) I say it out of concern and in the hopes that you'll keep a critical mind if you continue to pursue this interest. I catch myself in my own mental trappings and structured models of the self all the time... It's not something we tend to do consciously. The mind is wonderfully powerful, but so too can it work against us. Emotion is barely logical, but quite a real driving force. Just a reminder...

True enough. But then again I engage myself in many pursuits that most people, that normal people, that the common man, would not find to be logical. Trying to get my foreskin back is just one of them. Most people would ask, "Why the hell would you want that thing back?". Well, I guess I just feel, somewhat arrogantly perhaps but not entirely inaccurately, that I'm operating on a whole other level than those people. I remember reading a quote once and it stuck with me, though I don't remember who it was by, it was something to the effect of, “For one to be effective in one's own esteem, their ends need not be logical, merely their means.”

[newforeskin]

I read on line:
"In the lab of Dr Anthony Atala,
Two skin-growing clinical trials will start later this year. One will employ a computer-controlled stretching device to expand healthy pieces of skin as much as threefold before grafting them to burned tissue. That could take the place of current procedures, which are painful and drawn out. In the other trial, Atala's team will paint skin cells directly onto a wound."
What does it mean "paint skin cells directly onto a wound"?
Is this Acell's technique ?I saw in Acell website that Dr Atala is chairman at the Scientific Advisory Board and i know from a their sales manager that he is starting to use their products.
And what about the stretching device to expand healthy pieces of skin?
Even if it is not the same procedure of "tugging" ,the meaning is the same,the skin is expanded by stretching it.

[INeedAForeskinTransplant]

Just to let you guys know, because I can't remember if I have in the past, I have sent several letters to Dr Atala in the past, both online and by normal mail. For awhile I couldn't get him to reply at all, eventually I finally got this terse form letter from his secretary:

Dear Mr. ***** (my last name blocked out for privacy),

Thank you for your inquiry regarding Dr. Atala's research on penile regeneration cell and tissue engineering techniques. Although we are actively working in this area, it is still in the experimental stage

We regret that this technology cannot be applied to clinical practice at this time. However, it is our goal to bring this technology to a point of widespread clincal use, and we hope that we could help patients and their families, like you, in the future.
We thank you for your interest in our work. We will keep your inquiry on record and contact you if appropriate in the future.

Sincerely, Terri Bowen Administrative Assistant

I'm not saying not to try, and his mind may have changed in the time since I got this from him, but I don't think he's interested in helping us, guys.

What about the whole animal testing thing? Have we made any progress with finding a company for that? How about the website? Scott, if you have time, it would really be good if the website could at least have a cursory mention of what our org is about, foreskin, tissue regeneration. I would do it myself except that I don't know web design.

[saevio]

Originally Posted by INeedAForeskinTransplant

What about the whole animal testing thing? Have we made any progress with finding a company for that? How about the website? Scott, if you have time, it would really be good if the website could at least have a cursory mention of what our org is about, foreskin, tissue regeneration. I would do it myself except that I don't know web design.

I've been a little busy, to the point that I count myself lucky to have time to shit in my *own* bathroom. I'll see what I can do this weekend, but I was hopping to get a little more community input on what exactly needs to be said for several areas of the website.

[INeedAForeskinTransplant]

Originally Posted by saevio

I've been a little busy, to the point that I count myself lucky to have time to shit in my *own* bathroom. I'll see what I can do this weekend, but I was hopping to get a little more community input on what exactly needs to be said for several areas of the website.

Alright. Well, hopefully we'll have time to get some work done on it soon. I just don't want to see progress slow on this and this project fizzle out. This is one of the great endeavors that has been undertaken for mankind I believe, I don't think it's an understatement to say that, and how many of history's potential great works have just fizzled out before they could reach their full potential? Probably a lot. Let's not let this be one of them!

[newforeskin]

Another company that makes scaffold told me:"No medical studies have been done on this matter, we can not do anything if we do not get useful research" We are not doctors or scientists.
Napletek said:" We need some bigger organisations to help us (NORM-UK, Doctors Against Circumcision etc), putting us in touch with the relevant people etc.
Until then I think we may be wasting our time, and will not succeed. When we have doctors and medics proposing ways forward there is a chance.
The question of getting useful research done is still the most important question in my opinion. This costs money. If cost is the question how much would we all be prepared to pay for this? E20,000? E50,000? E100,000? This is going to be expensive! "

I completely agree with him

[INeedAForeskinTransplant]

Originally Posted by newforeskin

When we have doctors and medics proposing ways forward there is a chance.
The question of getting useful research done is still the most important question in my opinion. This costs money. If cost is the question how much would we all be prepared to pay for this? E20,000? E50,000? E100,000? This is going to be expensive! "

I completely agree with him

Then what we need is for any of the medical people in our group to write up some information/proposals, for the website to get made so we have a place to focus our efforts and point potential donors towards, and to try to get a drive for donations going to raise the money! Come on people, let's get going! This is the most important thing, let's do this here!

[TuggerJo]

I know that you can sue the person /or health organization that oversaw the circumcision for countless reasons...
But could you sue them for the amount of money it would cost for any of these procedures? Just a thought...

[INeedAForeskinTransplant]

Originally Posted by TuggerJo

I know that you can sue the person /or health organization that oversaw the circumcision for countless reasons...
But could you sue them for the amount of money it would cost for any of these procedures? Just a thought...

It's a good thought! We don't just need money for the procedures but right now apparently for animal testing, but lawsuits certainly might be a good way to start raising some funds, some seed money as it were. In my case, the responsible parties were parents and a religious organization, not a medical one, so I'm not sure if I could sue them the same as, say, a hospital, but, I might be able to! And people that were circumcised by hospitals certainly could. It's a great idea. What do you think guys, anyone still paying attention, please?

[TuggerJo]

Originally Posted by INeedAForeskinTransplant

It's a good thought! We don't just need money for the procedures but right now apparently for animal testing, but lawsuits certainly might be a good way to start raising some funds, some seed money as it were. In my case, the responsible parties were parents and a religious organization, not a medical one, so I'm not sure if I could sue them the same as, say, a hospital, but, I might be able to! And people that were circumcised by hospitals certainly could. It's a great idea. What do you think guys, anyone still paying attention, please?

We should start a thread on that!