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Old October 19th, 2011
Headgear Headgear is offline
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Default Time for a larger pusher?

How do I know when its time for a larger pusher and what size to get?
I mostly use the tlc-x in tugging mode with the pusher in just a little.
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Old October 19th, 2011
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Default Re: Time for a larger pusher?

I'm pondering the same question. I can extend the standard pusher by at least 20mm, so I'm thinking about getting the 20mm pusher.
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Old October 19th, 2011
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How do I know when its time for a larger pusher and what size to get?
I mostly use the tlc-x in tugging mode with the pusher in just a little.
Go to this post on calculating your Future Flaccid Roll-over Point (FFRP): http://www.foreskin-restoration.net/...2&postcount=44 (use ctrl-click to leave this window open)

You can download the spreadsheet, do the measurements, plug in the values, and determine where along your present skin tube the skin will naturally roll-over while you're hanging around flaccid in the future once you're restored.

Once you know the estimated location, mark it on your skin or identlfy a freckle or prominent mark at that distance up from the base.

Apply your device. If the "spot" lands right at the end where the skin is rolled over while you're tugging, then you're done for now. If the spot is facing out, then you could use a longer TLC-X Pusher (or whatever device you have) to take more of your skin to the inner-facing direction in the application step.

Wearing your device with the FFRP acting as the induced roll-over point (at the narrowest part of the device) gives that zone of skin the best chance to stay tightly puckered for a natural-looking end result. In fact, if Chinese foot-binding victims of a century ago are any indication, keeping a body part constrained may even allow it slowly conform to the constraint (that is, the shape of the skin-tube tip may even grow more tightly puckered).

You can mimic the effect of a longer Pusher by pre-extending the one you have before application. At some point, pre-extension will create a gap between the Pusher and the Tugger body that is greater than you can easliy make your skin jump past, at which time you do need a longer Pusher.

So if you're improving the forced erect reach of the skin tube by a couple millimeters per month you could need a Pusher that's maybe 5mm longer twice a year. (It's not a one-to-one correspondence with the added skin-tube reach because we don't apply the device while erect).
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Old October 21st, 2011
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Default Re: Time for a larger pusher?

Thanks for the info. Would you mind having a look at my spread sheet? I'm not sure if I'm understanding it correctly.

It looks like I will need 331% FEC and an additional 7" of skin tube to have full flaccid coverage. If I make the FEC goal % lower then 'Future Flaccid Overhang' turns to a negative. Am I doing this right? If so, my restoration will take longer then I expected.

Also, a question about measuring FEC. As I remember the way to measure it is to pull skin forward as far as possible with out causing pain. When I measure in this way, I get some abdominal skin migrating to the shaft. That abdominal skin is not part of the skin tube, so am I measuring correctly? And if so, does the spread sheet take this into account?

Thanks!
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Old October 21st, 2011
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Thanks for the info. Would you mind having a look at my spread sheet? I'm not sure if I'm understanding it correctly.

It looks like I will need 331% FEC and an additional 7" of skin tube to have full flaccid coverage. If I make the FEC goal % lower then 'Future Flaccid Overhang' turns to a negative. Am I doing this right? If so, my restoration will take longer then I expected.

Also, a question about measuring FEC. As I remember the way to measure it is to pull skin forward as far as possible with out causing pain. When I measure in this way, I get some abdominal skin migrating to the shaft. That abdominal skin is not part of the skin tube, so am I measuring correctly? And if so, does the spread sheet take this into account?

Thanks!
The calculation does not / can not tell you that you need 331% FEC. You choose the goal FEC you want to plug in to the calculation.
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Old October 23rd, 2011
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The calculation does not / can not tell you that you need 331% FEC. You choose the goal FEC you want to plug in to the calculation.
My goal is not to have any particular value for FEC. My goal is to have full flaccid coverage. I would think this is a common goal.

Based on the spread sheet calculations it looks like I will need FEC = 331% in order to reach my goal of full flaccid coverage.

Am I using the spread sheet correctly? Because FEC = 331% sounds high!
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Old October 23rd, 2011
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My goal is not to have any particular value for FEC. My goal is to have full flaccid coverage. I would think this is a common goal.

Based on the spread sheet calculations it looks like I will need FEC = 331% in order to reach my goal of full flaccid coverage.

Am I using the spread sheet correctly? Because FEC = 331% sounds high!
The calculation does not / can not tell you that you need 331% or any other specific FEC value.

You PLUG IN an FEC value as your own goal and that drives the other numbers.

Full flaccid coverage is thought by some to correspond with 150% FEC. But there is a continuum of coverage. If you check my progress http://foreskin-restoration.net/foru...hread.php?t=15 I had flaccid coverage that looked pretty "full" in under two years, but it wouldn't persist very long or survive much jostling back than. Even the relaxed coverage I was showing at 3.5 years would fail to stay like that in a number of settings like in a hot shower.

The more slack you gain, the more tenacious your coverage will be. I sat through a whole nude doctor's exam with coverage at 2 years, but that was in a cold exam room. It wasn't a lock that my glans wouldn't poke out the second the doctor got around to checking me for hernias. In fact the uncertainty of it made me so nervous my BP and pulse were off the chart and I wound up going for expensive tests basically just because I was a foreskin restorer attempting to pass as intact with a new doctor. I eventually told that guy all about restoring. (I also had written infant circumcision and non-surgical restoration on the medical history form).

If you want coverage that never, EVER retracts unless you want to, despite nocturnal erections and who knows what, you may need 250% to 300% FEC.
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Old October 24th, 2011
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Default Re: Time for a larger pusher?

excellent information. thanks ron
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