American women are in denial too

"Wow. That was the most offensive thing you could have possibly said to me. My man is absolutely not inferior, nor does he have an inferior cock."

[jeff71913]

Would be nice to know what that was in response to. Inquiring minds wanna know.

[admin]

Sounds like somebody said: "Yes, it does impair function. Whether he realizes it or not, your husband has lost valuable functional tissue that is important for giving and receiving a full measure of natural sexual pleasure."

And her response is the same as that of someone who arrived fresh from an island where all babies are born with one arm due to something in the water. Yes, here people have two arms and it lets them accomplish all sorts of things easier and yes better. "TWO arms? Forget that; one is plenty." The facts are just as obvious.

[airpud]

I think with most American women it hasn't even risen to the level of denial. I think for perhaps even the vast majority, it's pure ignorance. Denial is for later, when they have heard the truth and their little brains have finally admitted something to themselves.

The denial, when all of this truth starts getting out through independent media, will really start getting into gear.

Remember the AMA and the mainstream media is controlled by the same types of people, so a lid is being kept on this.

When this lid is forced open, these same people will try to simply make money from restoration, litigation, etc.

Americans are suckers. Fools. Some don't have a clue. Others don't want one. Most don't even know what a clue is.

Im newly divorced from a moron. He forced me to circ our eldest boy, to look "just like him." in 24 years, this "boy" has never seen his father naked. Our younger boy (17) was not circed because I was able to get up and fight for him. Their father has numerous sexual issues.

I'm seeing a man who was circed, but felt it was mutilation and refused to cut his son.

This man has really loose foreskin, and usually wears it over his glans. He is prob 75# overweight, underemployed, and I think he is the sexiest man I've ever known! He values his son's rights, and is amazing in bed. I always wanted to pair up with an uncirced partner, and this is probably as close as I'll get. Mmmmm, he's nice!

[becomingwhole]

Originally Posted by 51, starting over, not dead...

Im newly divorced from a moron. He forced me to circ our eldest boy, to look "just like him." in 24 years, this "boy" has never seen his father naked. Our younger boy (17) was not circed because I was able to get up and fight for him. Their father has numerous sexual issues.

I'm seeing a man who was circed, but felt it was mutilation and refused to cut his son.

This man has really loose foreskin, and usually wears it over his glans. He is prob 75# overweight, underemployed, and I think he is the sexiest man I've ever known! He values his son's rights, and is amazing in bed. I always wanted to pair up with an uncirced partner, and this is probably as close as I'll get. Mmmmm, he's nice!

Introduce him to restoring and you can get that foreskin you've always wanted

One wonders when morons like the one this lady divorced will take it upon themselves to hunt down the sick fucks who maimed their penises. Enough with the ceaseless war games and woman-hating, these faux men need to get to and conquer the root of their issues. Or do they tremble in their little booties just thinking about their circumcisers?

Pretty hard to get people to see the truth when they are so invested in the lies:

And furthermore, there's nothing wrong with me as a mother or my ability to parent my children just because I opted to have them snipped. I didn't ruin them. They're fine.

But if they are not fine, if there is something wrong with her as a mother, if they are ruined? Could she face that? Could she remotely acknowledge anything of the sort? Surely this is classic denial ---- being presented with the facts, being only numb and indifferent to them.

I told you I'm indifferent to it. I could care less if a man is circumcised, and if he is, it doesn't make him less of a man or any of that other bullshit the author spouted off.

Here's what another woman had to write, however.

I've always thought circumcision was dumb, pointless, idiotic, puritanical, and downright mean! It wasn't until I became the mother of a son that I began to think of it as much, much worse. It wasn't until then that I would wince at the sight of someone who has had that done to him. To me, it looks creepy; it is creepy. It looks bruised , stripped, broken. Mutilated. Unnatural. Painful and numb at the same time.

It wasn't until I became the mother of a son that I thought of circumcision as "the root of all evil" or at least the root of misogyny. How could they not grow up and stomp us under their boots after we allow such a hideous, agonizing torture to be inflicted on their freshly born little bodies?

A gestating and newborn person's mother is absolutely everything to him. No matter how much dad talks to the baby in utero, or plays Chopin for him on his violin, no matter how well the baby recognizes other people at birth, mom is still the only one he really knows. Inside out. She is not just the source of life; she is life. Mom is Goddess. Her body is Eden. She is paradise, bliss, and eternity. A minute away from her is an eon of exile and agony. Without her there is no life, only interminable desolation. She looms so large and all-important that he can't see beyond her. And to imagine her as a separate being, or as weak, or as under someone else's influence is unfathomable.

So that's why if something terrible happens, it's mom who allowed it. (In our society, whatever is wrong with a person is usually "their mother's fault.") It is She who betrayed him. There just isn't anybody else. It's Woman who's responsible for Man's fall from Grace according to the circumcised, Old Testament, patriarchal lot. It doesn't matter who actually does it--they are just pawns, devices, minions, tools, instruments of torture"it's Her Will. It doesn't matter who actually wants it or what the alleged reasons are.

How could a betrayal so huge, so profound, NOT take root in the tons and tons of societal garbage heaped upon the heads of little boys and produce such misogynous crap as wife-beating, witch-hunting, prostitution, pornography, mother-blaming, rape, sexism, endless perversions of every kind, and just general cold, unemotional, not-able-to-talk-about-his-feelings kind of guys? It couldn't.

But one, whole, feeling little boy raised with integrity will grow up to be one whole, feeling man with integrity. He will be horrified when he learns of the atrocity committed by his fellows. He will speak against it. He will have a whole, different outlook on life "one not based on pain, fear of pain, suppression of pain, or administering of pain" and therefore a life that touches others in a whole, different way. This boy will make a difference.

Which mother would you rather have?