Any muslim around here?

[notira]

Hey! I would like to know if there are muslims hanging around here and if possible contact them and talk about Islam.
I'm muslim aswell and I am somehow against circumcision because Qur'an clearly says that any part of our body should not be modified and that God has made us perfectly.
I want to know how other muslim fellows think aswell and have a long talk if possible.
Thanks for understanding!

[intact]

there are a couple, but they have not been active for a while.
Personally, muslim intactivism is probably the most important, I believe, as muslims stand for the {VAST} majority of all sorts of cutting round the planet.

Why muslims carry this curse who knows, as you said yourself that book does not even mention *GM.

It is good to see you here because that means that something is happening.

[notira]

Originally Posted by intact

there are a couple, but they have not been active for a while.
Personally, muslim intactivism is probably the most important, I believe, as muslims stand for the majority of all sorts of cutting round the planet.

Why muslims carry this curse who knows, as you said yourself that book does not even mention *GM.

It is good to see you here because that means that something is happening.

I guess you're talking the truth. I mean, a muslim must follow the Qur'an and do what it says and now I see plenty of other rules that are not even mentioned in Qur'an such as circumcision, sitting on couch and some other pointless rules... I just can't understand... Islam is a great religion but many people ruin it and don't follow it correctly.

[teen restore]

Hey I am Muslim Ramadan Mubarak

[Dasher]

Notira, I am not Muslim, and not an expert on your religion. But I would think that the faithful are entitled to a plain reading of the Qu'ran.

The Qu'ran is the ultimate truth for the faithful, and as you say it says that the body can not be modified because God created it perfectly. Only God can create this perfect body, not Man, which is why images of the human body are not allowed in the mosque.

When I was in Germany, I met a Turkish boy, 20, who was from a Muslim family but he was not circumcised. I asked him why not, and he said that quite a few Turkish boys weren't being circumcised any more. There are a couple of million people of Turkish descent living in Germany, where the circumcision rate for Christians is close to zero. I wonder exactly how many Turks are no longer following the practice of circumcision in Germany.

[sakura88]

Hello I'm muslim from Tunisia and restoring my foreskin right now
I know that circumcision is wrong, and the Hadith of circumcision is wrong
I can talk with you about this subject
do you speak arabic ?

[teen restore]

Originally Posted by Dasher

Notira, I am not Muslim, and not an expert on your religion. But I would think that the faithful are entitled to a plain reading of the Qu'ran.

The Qu'ran is the ultimate truth for the faithful, and as you say it says that the body can not be modified because God created it perfectly. Only God can create this perfect body, not Man, which is why images of the human body are not allowed in the mosque.

When I was in Germany, I met a Turkish boy, 20, who was from a Muslim family but he was not circumcised. I asked him why not, and he said that quite a few Turkish boys weren't being circumcised any more. There are a couple of million people of Turkish descent living in Germany, where the circumcision rate for Christians is close to zero. I wonder exactly how many Turks are no longer following the practice of circumcision in Germany.

That for the most part is true I have a lot of family in Germany (Afghans) My cousin was not circumcised till the Age of 8 I believe it had to do some thing with children's rights. Anyway by that age most muslims forget about it or simply the boys will just object to it I just wish that I had the choice to do it not my parents.

[teen restore]

Originally Posted by sakura88

Hello I'm muslim from Tunisia and restoring my foreskin right now
I know that circumcision is wrong, and the Hadith of circumcision is wrong
I can talk with you about this subject
do you speak arabic ?

I am sorry I don't Speak Arabic I am an Afghan American.

[airpud]

http://www.quranicpath.com/misconcep...cumcision.html

An Arabic link but it is mostly just an image.

http://www.quranicpath.com/misconcep...by_arabic.html

There are some notes in Arabic there but most of the page is in English.

Il y a des notes en arabe mais le plupart de la page est en anglais.

Everybody knows that the Quran doesnt allow circumcision. I think some Muslims are confused, and think somehow a (wrong) Hadith is above the Quran, which is illogical. Logically, anyone who takes a Hadith over what the Quran basically says that the Quran is not complete. And logically that would make that Muslim a fake Muslim.

I would think that the Quran has everything a Muslim needs. Why are people accepting Hadiths which are against what the Quran says?

[MJOLNIR]

notira, you've come across one of the few "Muslims" here, myself, who's done years of religious research and debunking of countless crap in the so-called divine hadith and sunna of Islam (have done so on free-minds.org for years, under the username Meteora; Free Minds by the way is a community of God-only Muslims, unlike the mainstream herd of those idolizing many other man-gods for following and obeying their words, the same men that ordain circumcision, stoning for adultery, killing for apostasy, among many other obviously evil and hence man-made bs from corrupted Judaism). Despite how ridiculously obvious which are the god-made teachings and which are man-made in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, adherents to these semitic religions choose to blind-follow like fools and are too bitch to set their minds free from religious sect control. They choose to never use it (their God-given brain) and instead believe in all the crap from the corrupted religion they super-glued themselves to. I appreciate Christians more though, since at least their creed that Jesus will forgive them either way stops them abiding by these same laws (which should explain why the entirety of Europe is 98% intact), which is overall good since a lot of them like I said are barbaric and man-made, not from God. Devout Christians on the other hand are as bad as Jews, but nothing, and I mean nothing is worse than a blind-following orthodox Sunni Muslim (my brother, mother and pretty much rest of the family, unfortunately).

Any studier of the Quran knows that:

1. The God in it said he created man (yes, it says MAN) ALREADY in the BEST form, not to cut off 2/3 of his freaking penile skin.

2. The God in it said Satan (a.k.a. Ibleess/Shaitan)'s plan is to get people to alter the creation of God, and my oh my if altering the sexual organs of a male or female doesn't qualify as this, then neither is cutting off their noses and ears.

3. The God in it is compassionate and merciful, and intends no harm inflicted on us. If you're not a sensitive viewer, google "routine infant circumcision", and watch the Google video which should be one of the first results. Try to comprehend the pain of the baby. Not going to post the link here as I'd hate for someone sensitive to see it since it made me cry like hell, and to think I went through the same shit so that a surgeon's paid is morally disgusting and sick.

4. The Quran is a final scripture, and a recollection of every. single. thing. that was DIVINE and from GOD that was sent down before. It hence left out all of the man-made crap, which by the will of God is still only in hadith and sunna books to prevent the only divine thing from being tarnished by such evil and ignorance.
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Those please excuse me, since despite that I'm rational and have done much thinking with an open mind and truth-searching, I am so emotionally screwed up due to the kind of people this world has, and for me it was religious people who were the absolute worst. It's the kind that, for me, no words can fully describe my pain, and would only be understood if the person was me, so occasionally you may see some aggressive terminology and/or cursing, which I think this post even has.

Take care. It's actually strange. I found out about being circumcised in 2009. Kinda hit me at that point. A week after, and literally for the next 3 years, really nice masturbation sessions. I often wondered "damn, I lost sensitivity but I think my penis's more than sensitive enough as it is!" but for some reason I think over those 3 years it decreased noticeably, and it wasn't until like last month I found out completely about the losses due to the unnecessary and barbaric procedure, and that, will have me permanently affected since the effect will always be there. Even restored, I'll still be half-affected since restoration can only do so much and just that - give you about half the full natural erogeneity that nature/God intended.