Infant dies from Rabbi Circumcision (new video I made)Infant Dies From Pedophile Rabbi B

[Appalled Observer]

Originally Posted by photenman

So when Jews shout Holocaust, I think to myself, they were oppressed by the Nazis, and suffered torture injury and death.

That's actually, in a particular instance, not true--unless the Jew you're remonstrating with has actually been on the receiving end of Nazism. Someone who has been frightened to death or been in the pits of despair (in a camp, or trying to dodge a camp) naturally deserves the utmost sympathy. Likewise someone who had their relatives torn from them, never to be seen again. Someone who was THERE.

However, the people you're actually talking about, the modernday circ promoters, have likely never seen a Nazi--and if they use the Nazis in their arguments today, they're just a disgusting freeloader. When they say "we were persecuted", they mean their ancestors were. Happily for them, today, they enjoy all the favouritism and special licence and privilege they can wring out of the country they're in.

Ergo: A Jew arguing for the perpetuation of circ--unless they were in WWII occupied Europe--have no right whatsoever to mention persecution or the holocaust. (doesn't stop them getting away with it though--the "anti-semite" jibe has been inculcated to be an omnipotent weapon to suppress dissent.)

I would guess that your actual holocaust survivor would much rather everyone STFU about it...it's only their compatriot mealticket smellers that use it.

BTW (I could go on for hours)--the Swiss Banks and German Industry were sued for billions, BY the Jew Groups ON BEHALF of the survivors...and those Groups (and Israel) kept most of it. Source: The Holocaust Industry; N. Finkelstein**

**dubbed a "self-hating Jew" by the Jew groups...best they could do. He's a prejudiced bigot against himself? Good one.
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My point in this post is...if you anticipate the Rabbi's standard retorts beforehand, they don't actually hold any water. Carry about as much weight as "it's easier to clean" as a reason for a secular amputation!

EDIT oh wow...repeating myself, from an earleir post in this thread. must be more depressed and fuddled than I thought.

[airpud]

Originally Posted by photenman

I agree as to children. We don't amputate any other healthy body parts from children. If a physician or parent did, they'd be locked up.

But if adults want to cut off some body part, that's their right. They just don't have the right to do it to children.

Do you think an 18-year-old should be allowed to have a doctor cut his perfectly healthy arm off?

I think calling these mohels pedophiles isn't right. They are worse than pedophiles. Pedophiles only have have sex with children. Mohels and d-ct-rs actually cut parts of the children off, and pedophiles don't pretend it's a noble thing to do or make their living from it.

"There's no business like the Shoah business."

[airpud]

Originally Posted by photenman

But if adults want to cut off some body part, that's their right.

I wonder where this right is enshrined. Or perhaps this is some unwritten naturally-assumed right? Please enlighten us.

I can't see this newspaper article appearing anytime soon:

"man has both healthy arms cut off"

What would happen to that doctor? Would the man (willing victim) be put into a mental institution?

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Appalled Observer

Ergo: A Jew arguing for the perpetuation of circ--unless they were in WWII occupied Europe--have no right whatsoever to mention persecution or the holocaust. (doesn't stop them getting away with it though--the "anti-semite" jibe has been inculcated to be an omnipotent weapon to suppress dissent.)

BTW (I could go on for hours)--the Swiss Banks and German Industry were sued for billions, BY the Jew Groups ON BEHALF of the survivors...and those Groups (and Israel) kept most of it. Source: The Holocaust Industry; N. Finkelstein**

It is very clear to anybody paying attention that Jews use the holocaust as a political weapon. The holocaust was a tragedy. Its sad and disgusting that some people think its okay to use a tragedy as a political weapon. And the way they get away with everything proves and verifies the dispraportianate control they have over society.

And I'm not talking about all Jews, just a small minority. 99% of Jews are just regular people who go to work to be able to buy food and pay rent. They circumcise because they don't think about it, they just do it because they think its what has to be done and they have no clue about the damage that is caused. But there is a powerful minority of Jews who do control things, and the other 99% are used as pawns in a game that they don't even know exists.

Since Jews use the holocaust as a weapon it almost makes one wonder if the holocaust was intstigated and funded by Jews, and in effect it was. Real history is very different than the history we are taught in school. The Rothschild family is a powerful banking family that originates from Germany but has spread all over Europe. The Rothschilds are the richest and most powerful family in the world, and they are Jewish. The Rothschilds over many centeries have consolidated power and today own a controling interest in just about every bank in the world, they own and control the global banking system. The Rothschilds also own and control much of the mainstream media. The Rothschilds have funded BOTH sides of every major war for at least 200 years, including WWII.

Think about it, Germany was defeated in WWI. When Hitler took over in 1933 Germany was a defeated destroyed nation. And in just 6 years in 1939 Germany was the greatest superpower in the world. Does anybody really think the Germans did this all by themselves in just 6 years? They obviously received a lot of help from the outside, such as funding from the Jewish Rothschilds. The Rothschilds attacked their own people to selfishly advance their own agenda. The Rothschilds knew that after WWII they could use the holocaust as a weapon to create Israel, and that Israel and Jews in general would be able to get away with murder, litterally. (Just look at how these rabbis get away with murder)

And, Hitler's Great Grandfather was Jewish. When Austria was annexed in 1938 Hitler had the town where his Great Grandfather was born evacuated. And the entire town was used for artillery practice and completely destroyed. Hitler did this to destroy any records of his Jewish heritage.

The holocaust is a real event, many innocent people were killed. But it did not happen the way we were taught it did. The holocaust is a giant scam, now Jews have a political weapon and a get out of jail forever card. Jews were killed in the holocaust and because of that Israel supposedly has a right to commit genocide against palestinians. I'm 100% sick and tired of this crap and I absolutley refuse to go along with it anymore. Its a psychological mind game that they play on people and I refuse to play it. I am so pissed off its difficult for me to even articulate how I feel.

All good Jews who have a heart and a concience, people like Finkelstein, should speak out against the attrocities of the Rothschilds (and other powerful Jewish families, there are many of them but the Rothschilds are the most powerful and well known). This small minority has hijacked the Jewish religion and the Jewish people. They have tarnished the name of Judaism by commiting attrocities in the name of Judaism. All good Jews need to speak out becase this is the most effictive way to put an end to all this evil that has gripped the planet for so long.

[Appalled Observer]

Yep. I've lately come to equate Jews today as like 1930's Germans--some are Party members, the rest go along with it (or ignore it) to keep the peace. Most of the Jews Hitler killed were innocent scapegoats. What he didn't foresee was making the malign (powerful and safe) ones almost omnipotent because of it.

I believe one of the latest ruses (though not sure how old it actually is) is their latterday preference for the term "Jewish person"--or indeed any noun with the adjective, so long as it's not Jew n**. The reasoning being, the common use of that word by bigots and haters, who must be silenced. In other words, they want exemption from being talked about in a negative context! Like, there are guilty people on this planet, but none of them are Jews...! Not human, then. Must be...uberhuman.

I don't accept the term "Jewish person" and if I hear it I ask "Do you mean a Jew? Why are you talking like that? Why is a Muslim not an Islamic person? Is it special treament? Here--I'll give you some special treament (points to a cattle truck)--"

Getting back to cutting kids' cocks about, if any dissenter sat down and worked out beforehand the responses he'd get from the Rabbis, he could destroy them (as passed down BS) with ease.
It takes anticipation though--for some strange, wonderful reason, the "anti-semite" jibe (and all the other devices) seem to be completely forgotten about between conflicts...like you seem to repeatedly walk into the same stunning sledgehammer. Amazing. Like you knew he was going to say that, but you weren't actually prepared for it, and it worked--again.

**except in the context of discussion about the holocaust of course. It's acceptable then...strange.

[photenman]

Originally Posted by airpud

I wonder where this right is enshrined. Or perhaps this is some unwritten naturally-assumed right? Please enlighten us. I can't see this newspaper article appearing anytime soon: "man has both healthy arms cut off" What would happen to that doctor? Would the man (willing victim) be put into a mental institution?

The general rule is that everyone has a right to personal security, to be safe, to keep all of their parts, and to bodily privacy (to be free from surgery without consent).

But the rule also is that adults have freedom to do as they please (for the most part). So if an adult woman wants to beautify her privates (in her opinion) by, say, trimming labia, she can do that.

It's a good question, what are doctors allowed to do?

[Disillusionment_Personified]

Originally Posted by Chris

Slave owners in the South did not listen either.

And why should they have? After all, in somewhat of a parallel to contemporary American society, slave owners once upon a time would invoke the notion of ownership of a human being as "states' rights." Had something against slavery? Fine, you don't have to own any. Otherwise, mind your own business.

This should sound familiar to us...

[Dutch]

From cbsnews.com on 6/7/2012:

CDC: 11 infants contracted herpes due to controversial Jewish circumcision practice
(CBS News) Part of a rare ultra Orthodox Jewish circumcision ritual may be putting infants at risk of contracting herpes, according to a new report released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

In New York City between November 2000 and December 2011, a total of 11 newborn males were infected by the herpes simplex virus in the weeks following an out-of-hospital Jewish ritual circumcision, known as a bris. Ten of the babies were hospitalized and one died.

Controversial circumcision ritual led to infant's death from herpes, says death certificate

Parents of six of the children confirmed that they babies participated in an ultra-Orthodox Jewish practice known as "metzitzah b'peh," during which the mohel - or person who performs the circumcision - places his mouth directly on the newly circumcised penis and sucks blood away from the wound. In the other cases, there was other evidence that suggested there was direct mouth-to-genital contact.

Metzitzah b'peh are not commonly performed in traditional Jewish circumcision rituals, HealthPop previously reported. In the past this was thought to limit complications and prevent infection, but today in order to prevent infection, many mohels use a sterilized glass tube or straw to clean the wound, including some orthodox rabbis.

Herpes simplex virus is an infection that causes sores in the affected area, according to the National Institutes of Health. It is spread through direct contact. The sores turn into blisters, which become painful. Although they eventually heal, the disease cannot be cured, and people suffer from outbreaks usually several times a year. Besides the more commonly known oral and genital herpes, herpes can also affect the eyes, skin or other parts of the body. The virus is especially dangerous for newborns and people with weak immune systems.

The CDC determined that 20,493 babies boys born in New York City could have potentially had direct oral suction during the almost six-year period they monitored statistics. The risk of contracting a form of herpes following Jewish ritual circumcision with confirmed or likely direct orogenital suction was determined to be 24.4 per 100,000 cases, which was 3.4 times higher than the risk for babies who did not have direct orogential suction.et

Because 20 percent of these babies won't have the lesions associated with herpes, the CDC urged that doctors look for other signs like fevers when evaluating what is wrong with a baby that has just undergone the ritual. The agency added that circumcisions should be performed under sterile conditions, and direct oral contact should be avoided as much as possible.
The New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene has more on this risk.

[Shawn]

Absolutely terrible that rabbi deserves the most agonizing form of punishment that is humanly possible

[Fullcoverage]

Originally Posted by airpud

Do you think an 18-year-old should be allowed to have a doctor cut his perfectly healthy arm off?

I think calling these mohels pedophiles isn't right. They are worse than pedophiles. Pedophiles only have have sex with children. Mohels and d-ct-rs actually cut parts of the children off, and pedophiles don't pretend it's a noble thing to do or make their living from it.

"There's no business like the Shoah business."

And why not take this line of thought one step further. What kind of religion insists on amputating the most sensitive part of the male genitals? Um, if you are made in the image of God, then he's got a foreskin. Therefore it is going against God's will to modify anyone's body via genital mutilation. This hasn't anything to do with religion and is no more than cattle branding. Once done, it's supposedly permanent. Well, I guess I proved them wrong cause I don't look like a Jew anymore

In the USA, it's had to see where Judaism starts and ends. It's to the point where the non-Jewish Caucasian male population has been made to look like Jews even to the point of physically. Look at who's been manufacturing the mgm devices and the chief advocates of it? It's a false assumption to blame Victorian morals and idiots like Kellogg alone for mgm being institutionalized. There's a disproportionate amount of Jews in urology and pediatrics. Same applies to Islam. I couldn't care the least about what any "holy" book or tradition says, it's genital mutilation and needs to stop. Then again, why do you think the two main religions that advocate mgm are always on the TV with violence and problems?

You are right there's nothing noble about this. And it's worse than pedophile. It's just the perpetuation of a barbaric act on innocent children to physically brand them so they look like the rest of the tribe. And if mgm is outlawed what will they use/do next? Stick a branding iron on the kids ass so he's part of the tribe? Would that be ok if it's done in the name of religion? That might be a lot harder to un-do too.

It's no religious act to brand a kid and remove the most sensitive part of his body without his consent. It's pure and simple hogwash.