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[box_of_cereal]

Europe has the good stuff when it comes to porn.

[cobra]

Some of my favorite porn is produced by Private. You can visit their website here:

www.private.com

Out of all the video clips available for streaming on this website, I saw 1 cut dick. It's not free porn, but the paid subscription is worth it.

Don't forget Italian porn. Those dudes and dudettes get freaky!

[1Taoist]

You know, Cobra, since this is a thread on porn, something I came across recently that I found interesting speaks to another thread where I believe we had a heated discussion.

Guilt over thinking of another chick (than our wife) during sex.

I heard that one proposed reason we watch porn is we get a sperm-boost. What was pointed out was men get a higher sperm count from watching group sex, particularly MFM, because of the perceived competition for insemination. It's totally unconscious, but true. Which is probably also why restoring guys are repulsed by porn that has cut guys, but turned on by porn with uncut guys.

They say that the thought of your mate with other men, or watching this, is a form of this boost. The sperm are stimulated to fight on a primal level. Without a cause to fight for, the sperm gets fat and lazy. And slow.

I think this makes a lot of sense. To people who've been in a long-term relationship. Not the only way to invigorate things, though.

Also why we like to watch others have sex, or in some cases are driven to have sex with others than our mate. When we watch porn, on some level we are interacting with those performing, they provide a psychic connection, which is why some feel guilt. I think the guilt should be let go, simply because processes unconscious to us all are at work. And we need sperm boosts. Those fuckers need to fight. Nothin guilty about that. It's the design.

There are many levels to this, some of which involves the avoidance of porn stimulus or group sex stimulus or extra-mate stimulus or competition-for-mate stimulus. These regulate our stability and long-term survival. But the sperm ignition, to me, is a level most try to avoid. Instead of from time to time focusing on the levels which by nature avoid such aspects. Call em the comfort phases. Where most try to avoid the ignition phases, which proves ultimately detrimental, more should try to focus on the comfort phases, which naturally avoid the ignition factors. The difference is when you avoid the ignition processes, they get you; when you embrace the comfort proceseses,
the ignition doesn't get you...it merely starts your car.

Ignition factors, or processes, are things like porn. Like thinking of someone else (new, old, or unknown) while with your mate. Comfort proceses are things like candles, a good meal, some Chris Botti music, telling her you love her, looking her in the eyes while cumming inside her, as well as focusing only on your mate. These kinds of things take the fight out and produce stability. But sooner or later the fight needs to come back.

And your sperm needs to go to war, 300 million strong.

Note: there is a radically increased sperm count in men who have a perceived challenge to their mate, or are challenging others for a mate. Downside is, this is short-term; gotta find a new score to get the same boost.

[cobra]

I wrote a response to this earlier but it appears to have disappeared into the ether. Ah well, I'll have another go of it. If the other appears, I'll just delete it.

I own a video store which stocks pornographic material. I am also the person who orders said pornographic material for the shop. I can assure you right now that there are three types of porn which outsells and outrents all other categories, and that is big cock porn, gangbang porn and double penetration porn. These three categories outperform all other porn, including glamor porn, big boobs, teen, blonde, redhead, blowjob... anything you could think of. The worst selling porn is girl-girl porn. It just gathers dust.

Despite the typical machismo most straight guys spout, men seek out pornography that typically involves what I would consider bisexual activity... double vaginal is a sure fire seller, dp and double anal. The image of two hard penises in one hole seems to set guys' crotches on fire, no matter how "straight" they are. Hell, I like it myself, so don't go getting all defensive. I'm just telling it like it is!

The reason is biological.

Here is an excerpt from an article on New Scientist:

Rivals spur men to produce better sperm

15:56 08 June 2005 by Rachel Nowak, Melbourne

Men who view pornographic images of two men and a woman produce better-quality sperm than men viewing pornographic images of just women, an Australian study reveals.

The finding suggests that humans may be capable of subconsciously increasing semen quality when faced with the possibility that their sperm will have to outrun those of other men in a woman's reproductive tract.

In the study, zoologists Leigh Simmons and Sarah Kilgallon of the University of Western Australia in Perth asked 52 heterosexual men aged between 18 and 35 years to ejaculate into a container after viewing the two types of image.

The volunteers had previously abstained from sexual activity for two to six days. In samples from men who viewed the images containing the two men and a woman - the "sperm-competition" images - 52% of the sperm were motile. This compared with 49% sperm motility in the men who viewed the images of women only - a difference that was statistically significant after taking into account lifestyle factors such as cigarette smoking and alcohol consumption.

But there was also a seemingly contradictory finding. Men who viewed the sperm-competition images had fewer sperm in their ejaculate: 61 million per millilitre compared to 77 million per millilitre for the men who viewed the female-only images. More studies are needed to explain this finding.

Rapid response

"It's a fascinating study. The effect is obviously immediate. This suggests that something [in the body] can be adjusted very, very quickly," says Jon Evans of the University of New South Wales in Sydney, who studies sperm competition in guppy fish.

The findings might suggest ways to improve the quality of sperm during fertility treatment.

The postcoital struggle between sperm is well known in species in which females may mate with more than one partner. For example, male chickens allocate more sperm to an attractive hen with a large comb than an unattractive one, upping the chances that one of their sperm will get to the egg before those of other contenders. Bulls and boars used for artificial insemination by the farming industry produce better-quality semen if they are allowed to view other animals mating.

However, Simmons is not suggesting that humans regularly indulge in multiple matings. "We need to step away from that in 2005. The risk of sperm competition is very low nowadays, but in the lineage of primates that resulted in humans there was probably sperm competition," he says

Previous studies have found that men who look at pornographic images depicting groups prefer the sorts of sperm-competition images used in the current study. Men may simply have evolved to find them more erotic so that they can respond appropriately to sperm competition, says Simmons.

Journal reference: Biology Letters (doi:10.1098/rsbl.2005.0324)

Now here is the conundrum we encounter. Why are we so hardwired to get excited in the presence of a sexual competitor? Here's my take: in the past, simple survival was a major concern, and having a close male companion-- or several close male companions-- helped increase the odds of a man living long enough to reproduce successfully.

The problem with groups of men cooperating for survival is that they would compete with one another sexually. Evolution's answer for that is for men to get extremely sexually aroused by the presence of other men so that their sperm is more active.

Even the shape of our penis is geared toward sexual competition. It is nearly unique in the animal kingdom in having a bulbous glans and flared coronal ridge, which works perfectly to scoop the semen of a competing male from a woman's vagina, catching it and pulling it away from the cervix.

The only part of the article I have any contention with is this:

However, Simmons is not suggesting that humans regularly indulge in multiple matings. "We need to step away from that in 2005. The risk of sperm competition is very low nowadays, but in the lineage of primates that resulted in humans there was probably sperm competition," he says

Bullshit! You only have to watch Maury Povich or Jerry Springer a few times to know that humans still regularly indulge in multiple mating. The risk of sperm competition is no lower now than it has ever been. 50% of women cheat on their mates. Even suspecting our mates of cheating boosts our sex drive.

In pre-Christian cultures, male-male bonding was nearly universal. Celtics had their wives and their male companions, as did Romans, Greeks, whathaveya. In more primitive and dangerous times, it was a good thing to hedge your bets, and having a male mate to help you battle off other males, and against which to safely compete sex-wise, led, I'm sure, to alot higher chances of reproducing versus a single male trying to survive and reproduce on his own. One guy versus groups of men who will fuck anything that moves, including him... is it any wonder MMF porn still makes us blow our corks?

[matty200]

l love porn hetro porn only l go to a few shops in london not far from where l live and l have a couple of these sex shops in the town where l live the shops in london are better for me as they are discreet.Britain was one of the last countries in Europe to have hardcore porn countries like Holland,France and other european countries did not have this problem as bad as we did we used to have soft porn comedy films of the 1970,s similar to the carry on's but a bit more erotic showing boobs etc.

[cobra]

Sorry, I thought you meant "hetero" porn at first but now I see you just misspelled "retro".

I tend to like older porn as well. The older stuff was hot because the actors and actresses looked more human and not so plastic perfect. I don't like fake boobs with scars all over them and shaved pusses. Just trim it, please. The guys all look like roided out ex-cons. Everyone looks like they spend 3 hours a day in a tanning booth. No stories, just repetitious pounding for 26 minutes with facial. Why can't they cum on some other body part... you know, just for novelty? I like seeing cum on bellies and cum on bush. In older porn they tended to cum on a variety of parts.

The gals looked like real gals you might actually get to boff in reality. The guys looked like guys you could compete with in the real world-- skinny, fat, hairy, ugly, with weird looking dick, just like us. Where did all these plastic, quasi-human perfectadroids with no body hair come from?

[matty200]

That's true l don't mind older porn as you said lot of girls today look fake like in the 70's at least they looked real l work with some young ladies and they look fake especially with fake tans

[1Taoist]

Are you sure he meant that? I like retro porn. If that's what he meant I get that.

Nice posting Cobra. Interesting topic of understanding. This is the study I was referring to.

Interesting angle you have on selling porn. Insider info. Very useful.

I was gonna add another demension earlier but didn't get around to it: and that's that we are ignited by things, or stimulated, but we also have a drive to order things too. As I said above, many people try to avoid their igniters (whatever they are) and just assume their comfort, or "bonding" principles- for use of a better term -will take care of everything cuz they're "good". And that's true. We should not encourage our mates to gangbang for us so we can get a sperm shot. We should not rub penis' in the same vadge, lest we "go gay" :-)) (LOL just kidding). No, really, for the reasons of disease, etc.

I don't know...maybe we should. Don't knock it til you try it, right? Gotta feel good at least.

Maybe the whole gay orientation may be explained in some fashion along these lines. Interesting to find out sperm levels of gay men. Bet they're higher. Ironic when you consider where it ends up. And how unreproductive it is.

Back to what I was saying- I think there are two sides to the war: the ignition/competition side, and the comfort/bonding side. Both are needed. Favor one too much and you get problems. And yes, if you just try to be comfortable and bond all the time you will not succeed.

What I meant to observe above was that people avoid the ignitors consciously, because they think they're supposed to only be comfort/bonders. So they end up at porn stores renting gangbang films and monsters of cock cuz their ignition is suppressed into the subconscious. That's why you get that "porn aura" that surrounds people renting this stuff- that slow, quiet, suppressed state of animation they get from browsing the porn section. That intense, narrowed focus that makes them decide on interracial anal DP films and manage to walk up to a counter in front of people and rent it. Looking back...can't believe I used to do that. I'd rent 4 or 5 of vids a pop probably 4-5 times a week. One time when I returned one the chick made me take it back home and clean it cuz there was a "substance" on the tape :-0 (was just some oil, nothin to do with jackin). Talk about altered states.

So people would be better served to embrace their ignitors and direct the energy toward comfort/bonding. The trouble arises from the fact that we may get a sperm boost from dueling cocks inside our wive's pussy, but afterward we get a real sperm crash- in other words depression cuz she took two dicks like a whore.

I don't agree with that. I don't think it has to be that way. And it shouldn't. A good session like that should result in good sex and not judgement. But easier said than done. The optimal state for humans of sound mind and body is neither the boost nor the depression. And experts say it's hard to get one without the other. That's why I say do whatever it takes to get yourself ignited, then turn it and DIRECT IT toward comfort/bonding. This produces a more realistic approach of reality than the madonna/whore complex.

If life is a sperm war, it is very short-term and our spirit suffers. If life is only a spiritual effort, it is a long-term struggle and our body and soul suffers. The soul is what links our gangbang sperm war to our righteous spirit warrior who brings peace, stability, and prosperity.

[matty200]

Hi l meant hetrosexual porn l just put hetro as short might of spelt it wrong

[1Taoist]

Another thing to consider is when we need sperm vigor (motility) and sperm levels (count), which I'm sure is another type of balance. Gangbang porn sometimes, and girl-on-girl porn others.