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[cobra]

Oh... well my post is not about hetero sex or gay sex, but merely an observation about what porn sells the best and the biological reason otherwise straight men get extra aroused by pornography that might seem bisexual or homosexual to a limited degree.

I am always amused by these big tough guys coming in the store all covered in tats and looking mean, and they buy DP porn every time, usually with a picture of two dudes and one chick on the cover. You would think that straight men would gravitate toward two chicks and one dick if group is the thrill, but for every reverse gangbang dvd that comes out there is 10 double vaginal and dp videos. Fuck My Wife, Please outsells Fuck My Husband, Please about 5 to 1.

Other than two cocks touching within the body of a female performer, however, male-male touching is taboo, and relegates a film to bi/gay territory, which sells worse than girl-girl porn.

Even in pre-christian times when male-male bonding was not taboo, there was a certain point up to which male only relations were acceptable. The point seemed to be where one male would take on a female/submissive role or if the male-male relationship was exclusive and did not include the normal male-female reproductive social roles. In other words, you could fuck another dude so long as you weren't the one getting fucked and so long as you liked women more. Our modern counterpart is what we call buddies. You can joke around, wrestle, make gay jibes but don't ever touch your buddies wiener!

So the thing seems to me to be a sperm competitive thing, and we get a hormonal rush from the thought of competing with another male, which feels good physically, primed and pumped up. I would venture to guess that the most sexually successful males tend to have close male friends with whom to compete with and keep their libidos in a state of sperm war readiness.

Some other recent new categories I have noticed which kind of stuns me is cuckold videos in which a scrawny dude watches as studs screw his girlfriend/wife... and cum eating... where guys eat their own creampie or are forced to eat the creampie of the dude cuckolding them. Barrrfff!! I have no idea what this is about.

But I understand what Tao is talking about which is allowing yourself to get charged by these borderline taboo fantasies and then turning that energy onto a spouse for improved sexual intercourse. Learning how and why our libidos work the way they do and then controlling it instead of dampening our natural sexual nature out of guilt or reluctance to think outside the very narrow corridor which is our religio-cultural norm.

[1Taoist]

Cuckold creampie eating? Very, very simple. The cuckcold is taking an unorthodox power position- he is watching, willingly, as his wife takes other lovers, but not just any, lovers MORE SATISFYING than their mate. This is a psychological sperm deal. Doesn't makes sense, yet it can to some degree if you approach it sideways. He accepts his limitation and gets humilated to a degree where his sperm is not the one to beat the others- he EATS the opponent's sperm, consumes it, which is a bit of an oroboros-like power cycle, supposed to confer life. The only way to beat him is not just by inseminating the mate, which he may be hopelessly doomed to fail at, but by consuming the other man's seed himself so it can't inseminate her. It's a variation of tribal practices where a rival tribe will not simply rape the women but kill their children by their current mates.

It's crazy, don't get me wrong. But it isn't totally meant to be understood straight on. Some things must remain a mystery, simply put.

Cuckhold vids like fuck my wife, please are popular because in today's society marriage is an institution. A prison of invisible bars. Since infidelity is the only way out of that, married men like to watch the competition taste their mate cuz a.) they get to see her appealling to other men; b.) they get the boost of sperm competition; c.) they are the one in control of her infidelity, thus conquering their own fear of it; d.) their own desire for her is renewed by her engagement of other men sexually, the ultimate statement of female sexuality and power.

That's my swing at it at least.

[cobra]

Perhaps by seeing your wife as the object of desire of other males, it reconfirms in the mate's mind that she is a good choice... sort of testing to make sure with other men that she is an alpha female. I don't know, I haven't given this stuff much thought outside this discussion.

I wonder how sexual competition between women occurs. Obviously, the goal would be to seduce another female's mate while making sure your own mate does not stray. Then again, do women really care if we stray? Genetically, it wouldn't matter so long as the male remains there to support and protect both her and her offspring. Maybe that's why men get away with cheating without destroying the marriage more often than the reverse. A woman KNOWS her children are her own and the main concern is support and protection. I'd wager that men who are dependable and successful in business can pretty much cheat whenever they want, so long as their wives are secure knowing they are not going to desert the family.

My wife told me I could cheat so long as she doesn't find out... That probably translates in female-ese as, "You can give away the sperm, just don't give away the support."

I wouldn't do it, tho. I am kind of uptight.

[1Taoist]

They care if we stray because they're in competition with other females. It's that simple. They aren't trying to impress us when they dress up, they're trying to out-do other females. We are just the booty. Same deal, other way.

[1Taoist]

You know, the more I read this the more interesting it is. How on some very submerged levels, what we do doesn't have to make sense to us, it just has to make it's way up.

An interesting note is in these sperm-study findings the differences are really marginal. But in an odd paralell, 49% to 52% is, in a corporation or a presidential election, a majority stake. And all that is all that is needed to win. It doesn't matter if you win by a mile. Just that you win. And often times, if you win by a mile there isn't much satisfaction; we are only as good as our competition.

If when watching women our sperm count increases to accomodate the women we see sexually, and when watching other men compete for these women sexually our sperm count concentrates itself for battle. The baseline numbers may only fluctuate marginally but they mean something.

Funny, I have noticed that sometimes I like to just look at naked women in sexy poses (like averotica.com if you're interested, or met-art.com), which probably increases my sperm count, and sometimes I like watching guys bang these chicks. I don't go much for gangbang stuff, though. I like realistic one-on-one, but I do like 2-on-one MFM if I find the girl appealing. DP is cool, but not in the same vadge or ass. When porn gets freaky it's different- I'll watch that foe freak factor. Maybe the MF, MFM gives me the sperm vigor once i've got the count. Maybe we think these interests just blow like the wind, but maybe on a less-than-conscious level we cultivate our state to keep it razor-fine, toward a majority stake in a game of inches.

[1Taoist]

Evolution is a game of strategies. These are strategies toward survival of species and of ego. Ego should not be excluded. The ego tends to create the odder strategies, cuz it's design is to go around limitations. To want more. Our species wants to recover our foreskins, but our ego wants over-hang. Our ego created circ, our species wants it back, and our ego decides to want more than nature gives.

[cobra]

I'm like you. I love looking at sexy women. Not just nude. A good looking woman with some cleavage showing will make me break out in a sweat. I'm the world's worst boob-looker. I tend to like corn-fed beauties, not those mean-looking Hollywood scarecrows with all their bones showing through the skin. Long hair. Bright smile. Big Boobs. Nice hips and butt.

I'm no Casanova by any means, but I have been around. I have found women to be just as interested in sex and enjoy it just as much as men... if not more so... It's just society that makes them act the way they do sometimes. Not being all that good looking, I have always been surprised how easy it is to get women to fool around with me. Alot is just confidence, niceness and horniness. Who wouldn't want someone panting with desire after you? It's flattering.

I have to admit that there is an uptight streak in me, but also a streak of kinkiness that I try to keep in check. I'm a paradox with a dick, but we probably all are in some way or another.

Understanding how and why our bodies work the way they do is something we should not shy away from. Victorian era morality has forced quite a bit of artificiality onto human sexuality and the results of this has probably been detrimental. Feelings of guilt and shame is part of the reason we're circumcised.

Take masturbation, for example. Only 100 years ago, masturbation was considered unhealthy and immoral. Women had their clits burned off with acid as a medical treatment for it. Men were circumcised, or forced to wear terrible medieval looking devices as punishment for the sin of self-gratification. Now we know that masturbation is healthy. It rids the body of old sperm and lowers the risk of prostate cancer.

We are still constrained in our relationships by these Victorian era morals. I see guys all the time afraid to have intimate male relationships due to the fear of being labeled homosexual, but scientific investigation shows that our libidos respond in a stronger, healthier manner when we interact with other males intimately. I'm not talking about gay sex. I am talking about having intimate male bonds like we had in the past. I don't have a close buddy right now and I kind of miss it. My wife is the same way. We've talked about how it's good to have a buddy (or girlfriend) outside one's married relationship.

I'm just rambling, I guess, but it is an interesting subject.

Now... who wants to rub dicks with me. I need a sperm boost!

[1Taoist]

I agree. And many guys seem to have better asses than chicks a lot of the time. I guess you'd call that dicks-with-chicks.

Rubbin penis' in some community vadge...a very old pastime. Male-bonding at it's best. Haven't tried it, though. If I do, I'll probably have my whole arm up the girl's ass at the same time. Good times.

[cobra]

Haha!

One time I was walking across a parking lot with my brother, talking to him. Up ahead was this blond with a sweet ass and hair down to her waist. I elbowed my brother and said, "Check that out." The blond turned to go down the sidewalk to a store and it was a dude... hippy with a beard. Oh, nooooo! Man, did I get ragged on! In my defense, he had really nice hair and a big booty.

About the sperm boost thing... I think it's rather more inherited from... say... vikings going out in groups and gangraping villagers on a Saturday night than two buddies getting a little too comfy in a foxhole together. Don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. Or take it however you want to take it. One behavioral trait is going to be inheritable... the other is not likely to make many babies.

If you're out with your viking buddies pillaging some villager punani, you better have some damn fast bullets locked and loaded-- genetically speaking. We are all descended from the fastest, strongest, meanest, horniest humans who ever lived. Is it any wonder we're mean, horny mofos, too?

[1Taoist]

No it isn't. I had the exactly same blond thing years ago in college. I went to a public screening of Last Temptation of Christ and there were all kinds of protesters goin apeshit outside, and while we were in line these gay guys chatted us up and one had long blond straight hair (my fetish), was good lookin like those Nelson twins singers and had a nice ass. He seemed to like me (I am a bit excessively handsome) and you know...I woulda fucked him and really enjoyed it. No kidding. He seemed to have no hair anywhere else, like a chick. No idea what his cock was like, but since I'm good at givin chicks reacharound rub-outs I woulda cranked his deal out without a care, long as that ass took mine all the way there.

Wow, I'm soundin just a little Viking aren't I? Instead I just fucked the girl in front of him.

In regards to the Viking analogy however: you really think Vikings did DP videos? I don't know. This may be a new thread angle, but I wonder if that's a fairly recent development. Maybe there isn't anything new under the SON :-D. That stuff just seems more a result of performance evolution. Kinds like dudes fuckin girls with that sideways dick action so the cam can see the action. Don't know if the DP in single vajine actually "feels" good. Looks good to the guy jackin to it, but I'd love to hear from anyone who's actually done it in real time.