Foreskin Restoration and how it affects the "turkey neck"

[G_want7]

Hello everyone!

This is probably my first post and I'd like to start by thanking Ron and all his staff for keeping this place alive and packed full of precious information. I will do my best to contribute with my experience (actually, lack of experience, as we speak, but I'll work it out someday! ) and share my stories as I restore my foreskin.

Ok, so this is probably my day 1. Actually, it's my day 0. I won't start my restoration until I take some photos and make some measurements. I'll start in a couple of days, probably. I've ordered a VLC tugger, suggested by Ron, as I wanted to "return" to my Penis Enlargement regimen. I want a bigger unit with a normal uncut look. I want it natural! Does it sound weird?

Anyway, I have a doubt that has ben worrying me. Yesterday, when I first tried my VLC device, I realised that my Turkey Neck (the skin between the testicles and the penis shaft) is actually quite big. I think it may have developed with my PE exercises, but can't actually say that for sure. Using the VLC, the turkey neck almost started at the bottom of my Your Skin Cone. I am a bit afraid that, by stretching the skin, the turkey neck may get even bigger. Ron told me it wouldn't happen, and I believe in him, but I guess I want to know if anyone has faced the same problem. It would be a dream come true if this whole restoration process would REDUCE that bloody foreskin. That would be great. I've read that somewhere... is that true?

So... Foreskin restoration equals LESS turkey neck, or MORE turkey neck?


Thank you so much everyone and happy restoring! This place rocks!!!

G

[Bral]

Originally Posted by G_want7

I want it natural! Does it sound weird?

Not in the least!

Welcome aboard! I'm afraid I don't have much knowledge about the "turkey neck" effect you speak of. But I have heard of people using rings or undergarments to hold the shaft skin near the base of the penis close to the rest of the body while tugging. That way skin from the scrotum isn't pulled forward during the restoration. I also believe it is possible for the body to pick up slack skin (some controversy here on that), the same way it does when you lose weight. So, by keeping your "turkey neck" close to the body, and preventing it from being pulled forward with your tugging, I think you'd be on the right track for minimizing that.

[greg_b]

The experience of those who have had a "turkey neck" and grew skin is that it will probably help reduce it. It could very well go away, or at least become a non issue. At the worst, restoration will not have any effect at all. I cannot remember anyone reporting that it makes it worse. Hard to see how it could.

Remember what is happening. You apply tension to the skin. The tension creates conditions that induce cell division. This grows more skin. More skin allows the skin to settle back against your body, thus most likely reducing turkey neck.

The tension is only effective close to where you apply the tension. Even though you do pull on the skin, and this could make it look like you are potentially making things grow near your body, that does not actually happen because the tension is not high enough except very close to where the tension is applied.

Bottom line: do not worry about restoration making your hair migrate up onto your penis, nor enlarging your turkey neck. Tug more, worry less.

Regards

[cobra]

I had a really bad turkey neck problem. My circumcision scar on the bottom side of my penis is V shaped, with the cut angled down toward the scrotum. Well, I should say "was V shaped" as it is no longer that way. Although it is natural for men to have a little turkey neck and hair on the shaft, it's something you may need to compensate for if you are like I was and most of the skin on the bottom side of the shaft is scrotum.

Mainly what I did to get rid of turkey neck was alot of focused manual stretching. Whenever I am in bed and find myself with a sleep boner, I put my thumb at the uppermost part of the scrotum skin and pull downwards toward the base of the shaft. I use enough force to make my inner skin sting. Over time this has corrected the turkey neck quite a bit, giving me much more actual shaft skin to work with.

That's about all you need to do. When putting on your restoring gear, try your best to keep from putting scrotum skin in the gripper. You can't fix it overnight, but it will improve. Eventually, you will have plenty of bottom side shaft skin to work with and more hangy balls as the scrotum returns to its natural position.

Finally, don't obsess about it. Even intact men have a bit of turkey neck. It is a natural feature of the penis. Whenever tension is put on the penis skin, the scrotum naturally slides up to keep the tension from damaging the penis. It's a kind of built in safety mechanism. I have observed in porn movies with intact men that when they are being jacked or otherwise handled, their scrotums come up the shaft at least an inch or two-- especially if their foreskins are being pulled up over their glans while erect.

Good luck with your restoring!

[re-store]

Originally Posted by G_want7

Hello everyone!

This is probably my first post and I'd like to start by thanking Ron and all his staff for keeping this place alive and packed full of precious information. I will do my best to contribute with my experience (actually, lack of experience, as we speak, but I'll work it out someday! ) and share my stories as I restore my foreskin.

Ok, so this is probably my day 1. Actually, it's my day 0. I won't start my restoration until I take some photos and make some measurements. I'll start in a couple of days, probably. I've ordered a VLC tugger, suggested by Ron, as I wanted to "return" to my Penis Enlargement regimen. I want a bigger unit with a normal uncut look. I want it natural! Does it sound weird?

Anyway, I have a doubt that has ben worrying me. Yesterday, when I first tried my VLC device, I realised that my Turkey Neck (the skin between the testicles and the penis shaft) is actually quite big. I think it may have developed with my PE exercises, but can't actually say that for sure. Using the VLC, the turkey neck almost started at the bottom of my Your Skin Cone. I am a bit afraid that, by stretching the skin, the turkey neck may get even bigger. Ron told me it wouldn't happen, and I believe in him, but I guess I want to know if anyone has faced the same problem. It would be a dream come true if this whole restoration process would REDUCE that bloody foreskin. That would be great. I've read that somewhere... is that true?

So... Foreskin restoration equals LESS turkey neck, or MORE turkey neck?


Thank you so much everyone and happy restoring! This place rocks!!!

G

God I hate being the bubble buster

Dude do you understand the nature of research?


You know penis enlargement is very dangerous and usually does more harm than good

Stretching skin to cause new growth very very easy

Stretching blood vessels (veins arteries) for more growth
VERY VERY DANGEROUS

You're research skills are terrible

by p.e. exercise I assume you mean

P.C. muscle exercises?

As in orgasm without ejaculation
AS in retrograde ejaculation


as in

You sperm into you're bladder then pee sperm

As in

You lose the abilities to ejaculate out of the penis normally?


DUDE PLEASE LEARN HOW TO RESEARCH BEFORE YOU RIP YOU'RE DICK OFF.


seriously 2 out those 3 things will do nothing but cause damage.

guess which two


And everyone els

CATCH THIS SHIT PLEASE

If i didn't say anything this guy would permanently have lost his abilitie to ejaculated caused permanent damage to himself

and I think he's going to rip his penis veins in half causeing massive internal bleeding

but hey what do I know right?

You obviously did more research than me.

SEriousely dude

Permanent damage and retrograde ejaculation await you.

[cobra]

There are alot of men practicing Penis Enlargement techniques. There are very few reported cases of men making their penises explode. I am not too educated regarding retrograde ejaculation and pissing sperm so I will not comment on that, but PE is relatively safe if you don't go overboard and attach cinderblocks to your penis for 8 hours a day or something like that. Typically men gain a little length and girth, but I am unconvinced they are not doing anything but some tissue expansion and releasing pent up penis size by loosening the skin. Average reports of PE size gain coincidentally coincide with average penis size gains reported from skin expansion.

I have heard circumcision called penis reduction surgery, and it really is penis reduction surgery. Quite a bit of skin is removed from the penis, and not only that but the loss of circulatory structures, scarring and lack of skin to accommodate erections also cause the penis to develop abnormally during puberty, resulting in a penis that is shorter and thinner than it genetically should have been if the penis had not be cosmetically altered.

Even if the size of a man's penis is not stunted by circumcision due to a looser cut, adding a doubled over skin sheath is going to make the penis look and feel significantly thicker and fuller. That is always my wife's comment when I have been restoring and adding more skin. She says, "Wow, you feel alot thicker."

And it does. I have owned my penis for 38 years and when I am erect and feeling it in my hand, it feels enormous to me. It's not anywhere near enormous, but the increased sensation makes it feel that way. I feel every inch of it from tip to balls.

Alot of the motivation to increase penis size is due to loss of sensation from circumcision-- not a man being actually small down there. I found my interest in doing PE waning as I gained more skin and more sensation. I just had no motivation to continue when I could actually feel my penis. When my sensitivity returned, my brain recognized it as being a thick, full-sized dick. When that occurred I could finally believe my wife, who said is was perfectly big enough for her. I stopped worrying about what everyone else had because I was more pleased with mine. How could it be deficient when it felt so good?

Average penis size is only 6 inches. That means the largest percentage of men have around 6 inches. The percentage of men that are over 7 inches is actually very small, despite what guys might say on the internet and all the photoshopped and wide-angle -lensed videos you see. Not only that, but large cocked men are more comfortable showing off their dicks and do it most often, leading many to believe that they are undersized in comparison. They are not considering the 95 average sized men that do not feel comfortable posting their dicks online compared to the 5 circus freak dicks who want to show off.

By all means, continue your PE efforts if it makes you happy, but I don't think you are going to feel the same about it after you have regained sensation to a certain point. After a while, it is going to feel alot better and you are going to stop feeling motivated to fix it. Your size is not the problem, your cosmetically reduced penis skin is the culprit.

[Tally]

Originally Posted by G_want7

So... Foreskin restoration equals LESS turkey neck, or MORE turkey neck?G

When I started restoring, I had a little turkey neck but not much. After a few weeks of tugging and feeling my skin getting looser, I noticed that my balls were hanging lower. Before restoring, my scrotal skin was tight enough that my balls were held comfortably against me. That was my normal condition.

As I grew more skin, my balls kept hanging lower. It took me a while to get used to it. Now, nine months into restoring, I don't even notice that they are hanging lower.

So, restoring your foreskin will cause new skin to grow. That new skin will let your turkey neck slide back and fill out your scrotum. That is, the skin moves back where it belongs.

Life is good. Restore.

[G_want7]

Thank you all for your replies!

I can't even express in words how grateful I am to be here. You guys seem to know so much about restoration that I can't even imagine myself going through this whole process without "bothering" again. I will, I promise!

I am very happy to find out that I won't be developing my turkey neck. I wouldn't even mind if it would stay like this (even though I'd prefer to have it reduced) but I'm very happy to know that it's going away... for good!

I still haven't started my restoration as my week has been so packed full of surprises. I will start next monday! As for now, I'm trying to find some informations on how much time I should spend at the beginning, how much I should add, etc. Sort of a foreskin restoration schedule. Can you help me with this? 24/7 might be too much for someone who is just starting, right?

G

[finman]

Some start with a flourish, putting in many hours but it can cause problems, particularly if the tension is too high and this may put you back or put you off.

This is a marathon, not a sprint, so start with what you feel you can comfortably achieve in the long term. You can always increase of decrease later.

[Americut]

Originally Posted by G_want7

24/7 might be too much for someone who is just starting, right?
G

That is arguably too much, for everyone. Before I came to this forum, I read things about this on the NORM site. Consider this, quoted from them:

"Cells are 'grown' by mitosis, that is cell division. In recent research on tissue expansion it has been determined that cyclical tension is the most productive. It has also been determined that excessive tension does more damage than moderate tension and therefore tissue that has been overly tensioned will take longer to 'heal'."

24 hour tension will not allow for the process explained above.

Here's one more quote from that site, that I have posted somewhere on this forum before. Maybe it can give you a better idea:

"Constant "24 hours a day" tension does not tend to produce the quickest results.

It appears from all this evidence that a good fast production regime is to apply moderate tension (8-14 oz) for 10-12 hours a day, and then for the remainder of the day, use a retainer to keep the glans covered. Five days a week seems also to be acceptable for results. The tension need only be five days a week while awake.

To 'force' yourself to a 24 hour 7 day a week regimen is counter productive for several reasons:

1. We all need to bathe, urinate and enjoy sexual activities.

2. Although we all want instant results, restoration does not happen that way. It took about 20 years to grow enough 'covering' to keep your body intact. So it will take some time to permanently lengthen your shaft tissue so that it will cover your glans."

But as I said the last time 10-12 hours is a bit much for me. I usually average about 8 hours in a day, and just retain during sleep.