Foreskin Restoration / Intactivism Network

Go Back   Foreskin Restoration / Intactivism Network > FORESKIN RESTORATION > General Restoration Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendars Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old September 15th, 2009
Misha Misha is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Yorba Linda
Posts: 24
Default Scrotal Skin

Has anyone deliberately stretched their scrotal skin in addition to the penile skin? My scrotal skin attaches to my penil skin all the way up to my circ scar (I have a CI-1). If I pull my scrotal skin forward to create a web, the web attaches at my circ scar. I'm thinking of manually stretching that web in addition to my regular manual stretching so that that skin doesn't pull my skin back toward my body and to allow my skin to hang forward more when I get more skin. I also wouldn't mind having a little extra ball skin to give my balls a little more room to hang around. Anyone else do something similar?

Also, I know hair concerns have been discussed a lot, but I have hair all the way up to my circ scar. So I'm assuming that after I achieve full coverage, I could potentially have hair literally all the way up my dick (more spread out than now), assuming my circ scar ends up at the tip of the overhang. The point is that I have hair forward of all my shaft skin so any growth of shaft skin will bring some of that hair further forward. And I think that that hair helps contribute to some of my wife's soreness if we go for a long time or if we have sex too frequently (if there is such a thing as too frequently ). I can't imagine that those hair follicles will migrate their way back south once they realize I've got enough skin.
__________________
There are risks and costs to a program of action. But they are far less than the long range risks and costs of comfortable inaction. - John F. Kennedy
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old September 15th, 2009
z726's Avatar
z726 z726 is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: California
Posts: 2,327
Default Re: Scrotal Skin

Go ahead and tug whatever skin you need to tug so you can relieve the tightness. Some of the other guys here who started without much shaft skin can weigh in on how your results will be. Is it all scrotal skin up to the circ scar, or just shaft skin with a few thinner hairs?
__________________
- Z
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old September 15th, 2009
Dachstein Dachstein is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 90
Default Re: Scrotal Skin

I have a similar problem. My scotum gets very tight during sex, to the point that I sometimes feel actual pain in my testicles from the pressure. I believe the scrotal skin is being pulled forward onto the penis unnaturally during erection due to my super tight circumcision.

When I tug down to my knee I wear an elastic band (cut from underwear) around my waist, going between the penis & scrotum to pull the "web" back. I hope over time this will help stretch out the area more than tugging alone.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old September 15th, 2009
greg_b greg_b is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Delaware, US
Posts: 4,949
Default Re: Scrotal Skin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Misha View Post
...I'm thinking of manually stretching that web in addition to my regular manual stretching so that that skin doesn't pull my skin back toward my body...

...I'm assuming that after I achieve full coverage, I could potentially have hair literally all the way up my dick (more spread out than now), assuming my circ scar ends up at the tip of the overhang. The point is that I have hair forward of all my shaft skin so any growth of shaft skin will bring some of that hair further forward. And I think that that hair helps contribute to some of my wife's soreness if we go for a long time or if we have sex too frequently (if there is such a thing as too frequently ). I can't imagine that those hair follicles will migrate their way back south once they realize I've got enough skin.
If you tug at or near the scar line, there will only be enough tension to cause cell division close to that point, at least as far as I have observed and heard. This means that the foreskin will be grown by adding more skin at or near the scar line, basically at the point of applying the tension. It is like adding skin to the tip, and continuing to do that. You will not be adding skin in the middle of the shaft.

This means that you do not have to worry about your scrotum pulling and staying close to to your scar line, it will gradually move away from it. As it does so, you will find that your scrotom moves back to you body and your turkey neck reduces, perhaps disappears. At worst, it will just stay as is.

This applies to hair as well. Of course, everyone is different in terms of how much hair they have, but the skin will grow essentially away from your body, so the hair line should move back toward your body, or at least get no worse. If your existing hair goes all the way to your scar line, and you use the scar line as your point of tension application, then conceivably you will still have hair going up to your shaft and scar line. The only way to really find out is to try it and see. You will be no worse off, may be better off. If not, you can then use electrolyses or shaving remove unwanted hair.

While the hair might contirbute to your wife's discomfort, once you have enough skin to allow the skin to stay in place while your penis slides inside, there will little or no rubbing, hair or not hair, and she should feel much more comfortable. At least that seems the consensus, YMMV.

All you need to do is tug. Long enough and at a tension that promotes cell division. It really is that simple...and difficult.

Regards
__________________
Greg B.

"The foreskin isn't the wrapper...it's the candy!"
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old September 15th, 2009
Misha Misha is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Yorba Linda
Posts: 24
Default Re: Scrotal Skin

As I sit here and yank on my dick while I read and respond, I'm realizing that the hair growing up to the circ scar is predominantly on the sides and bottom, with the exception of only a few hairs along the top. The hair has kind of a fade effect as it approaches the circ scar, so it's not a lot. But the fact remains that unless I get the large majority of the growth right at (and forward of) the circ scar, that I'm going to have hair move forward because of skin growth behind it. However, if I do concentrate the growth right at the circ scar, then that would also slow down my progress significantly since that's that much less skin that is actively growing.

And I do regularly shave, but the stubble can irritate a woman's soft intimate flesh. I'm hesitant to use electrolysis because I've received laser hair removal in the past (on my neck) and my hair just pretty much laughed at the laser.

My scrotum does get tight during sex sometimes, sometimes so much that my balls go internal. But I've also seen this happen to guys in porn so I know I'm not the only one. I have no idea if this happens less to guys who have more skin.
__________________
There are risks and costs to a program of action. But they are far less than the long range risks and costs of comfortable inaction. - John F. Kennedy
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old September 15th, 2009
cobra's Avatar
cobra cobra is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 1,362
Default Re: Scrotal Skin

I was cut super tight and supplemented my regular tugging with manual tugging that focused on the smidgen of shaft skin that remained between my circ scar and scrotum.

When I wake up in the morning with a woody, I use my thumb to push the scrotum skin down toward the base of my penis.

I also use a double OK grip, one at base and one at scarline, and tug the skin in between outwards in a kind of tug of war stretch.

Whenever tugging, I catch as little skin in the tugger as possible so that I tense as much skin as I can (the skin in the tugger does not get stretched) and also to put as much distance between the tension and my scrotum.

I don't think restorers without this problem understand. You can't tense the skin as well if your balls just slide up the shaft. There are also issues with hair. They say just restore and it will go away, but it doesn't if you are cut so far down you have trouble tensing skin without pulling up the balls.

There are several solutions to this problem posted on this website. Just read some of the other threads. Search for "turkey neck" or "focused restoring". You'll see descriptions and pics of the various solutions different restorers have come up with to keep from growing balls instead of foreskin.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old September 16th, 2009
greg_b greg_b is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Delaware, US
Posts: 4,949
Default Re: Scrotal Skin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Misha View Post
...unless I get the large majority of the growth right at (and forward of) the circ scar, that I'm going to have hair move forward because of skin growth behind it. However, if I do concentrate the growth right at the circ scar, then that would also slow down my progress significantly since that's that much less skin that is actively growing.

...My scrotum does get tight during sex sometimes, sometimes so much that my balls go internal. But I've also seen this happen to guys in porn so I know I'm not the only one. I have no idea if this happens less to guys who have more skin.
I use t-tape strips and an insert for tension. My observations are that the growth has only occurred very close to the point (scar line) where I applied tension. Growth rate has seemed to remain constant, also an indication that the growth is only occurring in a very small band near the point of tension.

You should think in terms of adding skin to the end or your skin, rather than adding it in the middle. That is assuming you put tension on the end.

My scrotom was like yours before I started. Your descripiton brings back memories. I have not even thought of that for a long time. I do not have that issue any longer.

You can restore, or not. You may be able to target growth, but there is a lot of uncertainty on how well you can do this. Even if you can, there is no garauntee that you will have less hair to deal with later.

Restore and you may end up with less hair.

Restore and you may be in the same situation.

Sounds like restoring is a good option to me.

Regards
__________________
Greg B.

"The foreskin isn't the wrapper...it's the candy!"
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old September 16th, 2009
(CG) (CG) is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 137
Default Re: Scrotal Skin

Greg B always seems to offer sage and solid advice. I agree with him on this. There is nothing to lose, and much to gain, right across the board. No guarantees on some of this, of course.

Ron Low (Admin) has advised us to think along this line: The surface area of the end of the new foreskin is much smaller than the surface area of the scrotum. This means, that while everything is being tugged forward, a disproportionate amount of tension is on the end of the skin. Thus, that is where expansion will occur. I think I got that right. If not, someone please draw be back into line.

Cheers,
(CG)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old September 16th, 2009
Dr. Cool Dr. Cool is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: France
Posts: 499
Default Re: Scrotal Skin

For people like me the problem has a name: raphe. My raphe is thick and it doesn't stretch easily, so once my skin tube starts to expand the tension is transferred to the raphe and then all the way down to the scrotum. You just need to look at my pictures to see how my balls creep up under my shaft when I pull my skin ahead (a natural thing naturally, but it shows how much tension is transferred to the balls by the raphe).

I agree that in the end the tension at the contact point will be enough to produce growth, nonetheless having the scrotum skin pulled up the shaft reduces useful tension at the contact point while asking for a higher level of overall tugging tension (to compensate for the part of the tension that's lost when distributed over a large area of no growth or undesired growth tissue). The problem then is not so much that there'll be no growth, but that the increased overall tension without scrotal retaining means more opportunities for the device to get loose, more pain and discomfort, and sometimes unequally distributed tension around the shaft skin contact point, which may lead to unwanted results.

That's why I retain during tugging. I'm betting that I'm better off by directly tackling my raphe issue instead of just ignoring it.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old September 20th, 2009
cobra's Avatar
cobra cobra is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 1,362
Default Re: Scrotal Skin

It's sort of like taking a 12 inch rubber band and pinching it in the middle. Holding it in the middle and applying X amount of force is going to produce more tension because you've reduced the amount of rubber band receiving the tension. Applying x amount of force after letting go is going to cut the tension on the entire length by half because you've doubled the area you're tensioning.

Retaining does two things: it increases the amount of tension by reducing the effective area being tensed, and it allows you to be more selective what parts of your anatomy are being tensioned.

Does is render faster progress...?

Myeh, who can say? Maybe if you hit that sweet spot of tension along the entire tensed surface area between gripper and retainer, versus just at the point of grip while tugging without a retainer. I see there being a potential for faster progress. The cells aren't going to divide any faster. But you might be able to induce skin expansion over a wider area with a retainer.

You can definitely get much higher tension while retaining, but that's not necessarily a good thing, because too much tension can be damaging.

It's mainly just about control. With two points of contact, you can control the amount and application of tension in between much better than with one point of contact.

That's my theory anyway. What say ye, bulldog?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 23:13.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.