Best strapless device/clip for Tapes?

[WindStretcher]

Hi guys, i just would like to know which is the best strapless thing you have seen/used to grab T-Tapes. I'm seeking for good strap-clips, but, then I'm seeing the problem to attach them together... so it would be probably better a compact (unibody) system to grab your T-Tape to your knee.

Thks

[greg_b]

when you say strapless, what do you mean?

I use t-tape strips with an insert. Completely strapless. All I use is a wire twist tie to hold the insert inside the tape/skin tube.

Regards

[WindStretcher]

Originally Posted by greg_b

when you say strapless, what do you mean?

I use t-tape strips with an insert. Completely strapless. All I use is a wire twist tie to hold the insert inside the tape/skin tube.

Regards

Hi and sorry for the delay greg.

By strapless i meant without straps, it is, clipping the t-tape directly to my knee, to do that, i use 2 clips one which grabs some folds of the knee and another one which grabs the t-tape itself with some paper inside. The problem, holding both clips together... which i have to make with a wire.

I can't understand your method... what is an insert? how do you attach/hook the t-tape to something like... a knee?

And yet the most frustrating question for me, how do you make your tape not to unstick easily in 2 hours. Maybe putting another not very wide tape around the external end of the t-tape? (maybe also in the inner side)?

I wash my skin very intensively (not with glycerin soap though), i dry intensively the t-tape once applied, for 5 mins, and even with that, my t-tape will unstick after a couple of hours. I really dont know what to do, and it's very frustrating since in my starting days (years ago) i could happily wear my t-tape during all day... now I really don't know what happens. Maybe Rejuveness is supplying me now with useless/old/expired rolls.... ;/

[Science Monk]

Originally Posted by WindStretcher

I wash my skin very intensively (not with glycerin soap though), i dry intensively the t-tape once applied, for 5 mins, and even with that, my t-tape will unstick after a couple of hours. I really dont know what to do, and it's very frustrating since in my starting days (years ago) i could happily wear my t-tape during all day... now I really don't know what happens. Maybe Rejuveness is supplying me now with useless/old/expired rolls.... ;/

The most common reason for premature T-tape job failure is having the POE wrong. See my extensive post on Locating and Marking the POE:
http://foreskin-restoration.net/foru...ead.php?t=5433

However, even when you do everything right it is not unusual for the first T-tape jobs to fail within hours, or even minutes. This is true not only for beginning T-tapers, but also for veteran T-tapers after taking a vacation from tugging.

It takes time for the skin to acclimate to accepting the tape. I think the skin pores eventually reduce their output of skin oils in response to being constantly covered.

The solution for you: Apply only low to moderate tension to new T-tape jobs in the beginning. Increase the tension as the T-tapes begin to hold more firmly.

On the issue of tapes that have been on the shelf too long:
Our friends, the nurses, have a way of improving the stick of old medical tape by flexing it back and forth vigorously. It's sometimes called "waking up the tape." You do this by vigorously (almost violently) bending and sliding a length of tape over the open blade of a pair of scissors (just prior to applying the tape to your skin). The action is similar to that used to artfully curl the ends of gift wrap ribbon. This also curls the tape, but if you are using a tape with a non-stick backing like ReJuveness, you can perform the "waking up the tape" with the backing still on, and uncurl the tape by then by performing the same action on the reverse (backing) side. "Waking up the tape" has the effect of fluffing up old adhesive that has become compacted by being on the roll too long. .

David
World As Monkey Island

[greg_b]

Originally Posted by WindStretcher

Hi and sorry for the delay greg.

By strapless i meant without straps, it is, clipping the t-tape directly to my knee, to do that, i use 2 clips one which grabs some folds of the knee and another one which grabs the t-tape itself with some paper inside. The problem, holding both clips together... which i have to make with a wire.

I can't understand your method... what is an insert? how do you attach/hook the t-tape to something like... a knee?

And yet the most frustrating question for me, how do you make your tape not to unstick easily in 2 hours. Maybe putting another not very wide tape around the external end of the t-tape? (maybe also in the inner side)?

I wash my skin very intensively (not with glycerin soap though), i dry intensively the t-tape once applied, for 5 mins, and even with that, my t-tape will unstick after a couple of hours. I really dont know what to do, and it's very frustrating since in my starting days (years ago) i could happily wear my t-tape during all day... now I really don't know what happens. Maybe Rejuveness is supplying me now with useless/old/expired rolls.... ;/

You can read a detailed set of instructions, with photos, about my method:

http://www.restoringforeskin.org/ima...llustrated.pdf

When I have had problems with tape failing, it has been because of moisture. The tape used can make a difference. different people may have different skin types that work better or worse with diffeent tapes. The best tape for me has been Rejuveness.

Other things I do to reduce tape failure:

Apply tape after my shower, when my skin is clean and free of oil

Wait 10-20 min after applying the tape for 1) my skin to dry completely and 2) the tape adhesive to "set"

Apply tension evenly

I am not picturing your method very well, so not sure what to say, however a couple thoughts come to mind. If you are not applying tape "t-tape" fashion, ie do not have two pieces of tape applied to your skin, then that could make it easier for the tape to peel off.

If you are applying a great deal more tension to one side than the other, that could make it fail more easily.

Regards

[WindStretcher]

Hi!

I wanted to say that I hook the clip directly to the knee brace, without wrapping long straps around the leg or something like that. I'm suposed to be a "veteran" (I started with t-tapes 5 years ago). And by then, I guess I applied less tension or rejuveness tapes were better since they could last two days on with me. Now as I say it is impossible for me to last more than 3-4 hours. Maybe I should consider changing the attaching method (instead of attaching the clip to the knee brace, doing it with suspenders at the height of the abdomen)? Although I supose it would be more visible to wear in the job.

In any case, I wonder if I should use some kind of product to dry the skin before applying the t-tape, or maybe trying to change the tape... trying 3m micropore / hypafix / Mefix (even when they all were worse than rejuveness for me in the past). I don't do what you say about using two separate tapes, I've always used the "common" single t-tape with or without overlap (more successfully without overlap). I thought also that I should increase the space at the top of the T (the one which sticks to the skin). So far I've always bent the backing strip that comes with rejuveness for that purpose. I have also ordered suspenderfactory's suspenders for the clips (by the way, thanks to whom advised me about that!). Anyway I supose it is a bad deal to stretch with a knee brace, because as you say, it pulls unevenly.

Besides I have to constantly apply tension in my leg to pull, and it's really uncomfortable and I think it's also very unhealthy for the back.

If you have ideas they are welcome.

Greetings!

PS: I have also tried the "Tape awakening" procedure, Science Monk, hehe, also without success. Thanks anyway.

[greg_b]

I do not think the knee brace attachment is the problem, but you could look and see if the tension seems relatively even or not.

others have indeed used products to help the skin adhere to the tape better, nothing wrong with that, you could search ofr products for those who need to have tape attached long term, colostomy supplies for example.

Two pieces vs single piece does not sound like an issue to worry about to me. I meant are you attaching a "T" or "L". since you are attaching the traditional "T", that should work fine.

The length of the tape attached to your skin could be adjusted to try and help. I always keep mine pretty short, but there is a limit. About 1/8 to 1/4 inches works well for me.

I do squeeze the tape hard against my skin to help ensure adherence. Not sure if it helps, but pretty sure it doesn't hurt.

In the end, 3-4 hrs is a reasonable time to have tension on. You might consider just letting that happen. Put it on, and when it fails after 3-4 hrs, call it good for that day. We probably need less than an hr for triggering growth. Given how hard it is to apply tension, going for a few hrs should be fine.

I guess my thoughts would be to try applying tape after your morning shower, then squeezing the tape against your skin pretty hard and waiting 20 min or so before applying tension first. If you have already been ther done that, or it doesn't help, then try increasing the length of the top of the "T", ie the tape attached to your skin. Then try adding a skin preparation for patients needing tape on 24/7.

Scienc Monk used denture cream at some point, if I recall correctly, to help the tape adhere when his inner skjn was getting too moist. that is one more option to consider.

Regards