Cant get my girlfriend on board.

[admin]

Originally Posted by greg_b

depends of course on that audience.

This is the most important thing. Somebody comes on here saying "what's the best way to persuade someone" and the answer is to know your stuff and find out what their concerns are. I'm happy to tell a religious person about scripture and an atheist that scripture is irrelevant. Whichever will spare the baby.

[Rikimusha]

Originally Posted by RideTheSpiral

Peterpink- while i understand what you are trying to get at, i dont appreciate you telling me to "grow a pair and go for it". obviously my penis is mine but being in a monogamous relationship anything i do to myself effects her as well. if she decided you change something about her vagina, clearly i would have to deal with it as well. the goal is to enhance our sex life not alienate and make her more uncomfortable.

I am not trying to gang up on you. I understand your genitals and your relationship are yours alone, and me and just about everyone here wishes you the best of luck in restoration, BUT possible alienation and the feeling of being uncomfortable is always going to be a bump in the road towards improved intimacy. You did say she was kind of a stubborn person. Do you really want to wait until she finally comes around? Would she do the same for you?

Restoration is a long process ahead of you which may take 1-2 years... or even longer. I don't think Peterpink said "grow a pair and go for it" to piss you off, but to tell you that being selfish isn't always a bad thing. Especially when the information to back up intactivism is so immense. You took the first step, you spoke to her like a good partner should.

I would begin restoration now, and continue to try and talk about it.

[Terato]

Originally Posted by Rikimusha

I am not trying to gang up on you. I understand your genitals and your relationship are yours alone, and me and just about everyone here wishes you the best of luck in restoration, BUT possible alienation and the feeling of being uncomfortable is always going to be a bump in the road towards improved intimacy. You did say she was kind of a stubborn person. Do you really want to wait until she finally comes around? Would she do the same for you?

Restoration is a long process ahead of you which may take 1-2 years... or even longer. I don't think Peterpink said "grow a pair and go for it" to piss you off, but to tell you that being selfish isn't always a bad thing. Especially when the information to back up intactivism is so immense. You took the first step, you spoke to her like a good partner should.

I would begin restoration now, and continue to try and talk about it.

This, completely agree with this. OP, you've invested three and a half years in this relationship... but it could still end a year from now, six months from now, a month, a week, a day from now. I'm not saying to throw this relationship overboard... but consider what YOU want for YOUR body for the rest of your life, not just the life of this relationship, and go for it.

Also, if you have not brought up the issue of what would happen if your gf became pregnant, chose to carry the pregnancy to term, and had a boy and was presented with the option to circumcise, you should DEFINITELY bring that up. Do not wait until this is an actual reality in your life with her.

[RestoMan]

IMO, all you have to do is tell her this:

It's a natural part of your body. It's designed to function in FAVOR of reproducing our species. It's not an umbrella for infection or disease. The logic is extremely similar to the maintenance of her own genitalia--if she can keep hers clean and infectionless, then you can keep yours clean and infectionless.

It might be a little weird, but put it in her shoes. Ask her what she has to do to "Keep clean" and then simply state that you essentially will have the same maintenance. It's as simple as that. If she's still hesitant, then basically say (in a less accusatory tone) "well, with your logic, I should be afraid of contracting an infection from you, as your body can trap infection just as easily as mine could. But I trust you with your body and maintaining the cleanliness your body for both of us, now please trust me in the same way with maintaining my body as it is supposed to be maintained."

That's what I'd do.

[Aspie]

You know it might be a good idea to just start without her even knowing and when she notices a difference and comments on the positive change(s) that have occurred tell her why. I mean it really sounds like the only way she will ever accept your restoration is to know the difference first hand.

[photenman]

Here's a good resource for you re how circumcision impairs sexual function, and relatedly how having a foreskin is better for female partners. http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/. It increases the likelihood that the female will reach orgasm.

There's a good video by doctors about the foreskin and its function here: http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcisi...o/prepuce.html, and info here: http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcisi.../foreskin.html.

As someone else said, foreskin restoration is the answer to the friction problem you and your wife are having. A circumcised penis is essentially a dry stick that rubs women raw. Restoration allows the foreskin to glide, and also increases lubrication from the male.

My wife is conservative and skeptical, but finally I told her I was restoring, and after two years she has noticed an improved sex life for her, plus she's pleased that I am happy with the improvement.

At worst, wear a tugging device when you're not together. You'll get to restore your penis, which you own - it's your choice, and over time you will both benefit. In fact it won't take long covering your glans and tugging or using a device to notice the improvement once you have slack.

[Sogious]

So, is she going to dump you if you decide to restore your foreskin? I doubt that either. I suggest you do it. My foreskin allows more pleasure for my partner, woman or man. It acts as lubricant would.

I too am endowed in girth. You spend so much time worrying about size, but when it comes down to it, most guys are adequate in size and most women are small anyway as well. I would cause bleeding for those who weren't virgins. The thing is, the foreskin really helps and there is a new found feeling to women. While a few of them couldn't put it into words, there is a difference and it is good. One woman was my ex from when I was in high school. I met up with her again and she said it felt better with the foreskin. So, sex improve for the man as well as for the woman.

Also, I don't see how women can get infection from foreskin. They have more build up of smegma and certainly don't smell of flowers down there, worse than men. I would know. At least we have a method of cleaning called soap and water while women bleed out their smegma monthly. How is that cleaner?

[RideTheSpiral]

Hey Everyone,

Thank you all for your advice. I appreciate what all of you are saying and you are right. It is my choice and not my fault that she doesnt understand. i plan on getting a DTR soon and wear it when I am not with her. I know she will enjoy it once it is noticeable.

Thanks again.

[Purist]

Originally Posted by admin

Tell her not to worry as you're NOT regrowing a foreskin. You're only lengthening the skin you have so it can act like a foerskin a give you some of the benefits of being intact with NONE of the effects she would call drawbacks.

What?? Now I'm depressed.

I hate the word "fauxskin". Isn't that what that is describing?

[jeff71913]

I believe the restored foreskin is more similar to the real thing than most think. If a woman does not like a natural foreskin then she may not care for a restored foreskin. The primary reason is the scent of the restored foreskin. My restored foreskin does have a scent that some men and women would find objectionable. I should mention that I'm very clean, but it is what it is. Personally, I find the scent very arousing. Everyone is different. I should also mention that I am far from finished with my restoration regimen.
I believe a lot of women have the "my shit don't stink" attitude and even though their vagina may smell terrible they will not see it that way. This may be the single most significant reason that circ continues today. Your stuff smells bad, but mine don't. Cut your's off, but leave mine alone. That's pretty much how it works and since we live in a matriarchal society that has been eronneously led to believe it is a patriarchial society that's not likely to change anytime soon.